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    MSPhysics 1.0.3 (16 October 2017)

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    • A Offline
      Anton_S
      last edited by

      @pilou said:

      Can you see the 2 gif animations above?
      (because they are on the Su French forum section)

      Nope, I don't see them. It says I'm unauthorized to view them...

      @pilou said:

      PS Sorry for the MS "Untouching" Physics! 😳
      I will remember that for the next time!

      I'm not offended by that in any way. Neither is Ms Physics πŸ˜†

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        pilou
        last edited by

        @Anton

        By Chri : tricky use of MS Physics! πŸ˜‰

        dameuse2.gif
        dameuse21.gif

        PS Have you something for "Untouch" objects selected in Ms Physics ?


        DAMEUSE2.skp

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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          pilou
          last edited by

          Gif animations repaired! β˜€
          http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=323%26amp;t=56852%26amp;start=600#p616669

          Sorry for the inconvenience! 😳

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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            faust07
            last edited by

            Hi Anton, thank you for the detailed explanations. Much confirms my assumptions. Can not wait for the final version. From the v1.0.0 onwards, it also makes more sense to put models in 3D-Warehouse.
            I've sent you a PM with the test model. Perhaps you can find the causes for the jerky movements in complex MSP calculations and give ideas for the improvement of the scripts.

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              delchrys
              last edited by

              Almost ready Anton,
              now i only need to get it moving a bit further.
              If the two green half circles meet each other and the cyclinder moves further, the whole green circle part should rotate a bit around the origin point. If you know what i mean.
              If you look at the following youtube video you should understand what i mean. The first couple of centimeters is needed for closing the green grip halves, the next centimeters are needed to rotate.
              regards,
              Bert

              PS Hope i'm not asking too much πŸ˜„
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO2Dy7PM7Gs

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                Anton_S
                last edited by

                Hi, Bert

                Here it is:
                delchrys - gatorator.skp
                Now it rotates along the pipe, like desired.

                I also made it compatible with MSPhysics 0.9.9. I assigned all bodies a mass of 1.0 so that the joints are robust. This won't be necessary in the final MSPhysics, version 1.0.0, but that's what required in the current version. I also added grippers to the clutches. The clutches themselves are ignored, but the grippers are collidable. If you enable the MSPhysics Joints layer, you will see the grippers. I also changed the solver model to iterative 64 passes, once again, for a more stable behavior of joints in the current versions of MSPhysics.

                Regards,
                Anton

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                  delchrys
                  last edited by

                  Hi Anton,

                  thanks you are the greatest. Now i'm going to figure out all the joints and combinations of groups so i can figure how you do it.
                  Also i'm adding a other wrench that is holdng the other end of the pipe.
                  Then i hope it will loosen like i need it to.
                  Keep you update!!!

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                    delchrys
                    last edited by

                    Anton?
                    How do you make the guide points?

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                      Anton_S
                      last edited by

                      So, for a circle/arcs, you right click on them and select "Find Center".

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                        delchrys
                        last edited by

                        Ah thanks you didn't know that option. Also downloaded pointtool plugin. Tonight in my nightshift I'm going to draw some more of the model to make a nice overview to show at work. Really loving this msphysics plugin. Possibilities are almost endless

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                          delchrys
                          last edited by

                          Does someone have any advise in rendering for sketchup?
                          Preferably free??
                          Like to render some things when i'm done, needs to look good πŸ˜„

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                            delchrys
                            last edited by

                            @anton_s said:

                            So, for a circle/arcs, you right click on them and select "Find Center".

                            So i kind of remodelled a bit, but can't seem to understand why the pipe continues to rotate even when the grippers are open. It kind of get momentum because of the rotation, how can i stop that. So when the cylinder moves back, the grippers open and let go of the pipe and it stands still.
                            Made the body static because it will be connected with the other wrench, so that only the gripper head rotates.
                            Did i do the pipe right by giving him a plane joint and only allow it to rotate???
                            I don't want it to move in any other direction then rotating caused by the grippers.
                            Should i accomplish this all by adding friction or is there a simple workaround?
                            I doesn't have to be Physics Law proof but only look right.

                            A lot of questions but getting there 😍

                            PS is ther a plugin for SU2016 to import 2017 files or a simple converter??? I cannot install 2017 at work due to lack of administrative rights 😑


                            almost final.skp

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                              Anton_S
                              last edited by

                              Hello, Bert,

                              @delchrys said:

                              So i kind of remodelled a bit, but can't seem to understand why the pipe continues to rotate even when the grippers are open. It kind of get momentum because of the rotation, how can i stop that. So when the cylinder moves back, the grippers open and let go of the pipe and it stands still.

                              To fix this, you need reduce linear friction of the Plane joint from 100 to 1. This will the pipe to require less force to move along the plane. Also, setting the angular friction of the Plane joint to 0.01 should prevent the backward rotation of the pipe.

                              @delchrys said:

                              Did i do the pipe right by giving him a plane joint and only allow it to rotate???
                              Either the tool should move or the pipe should move for the grippers to work properly, presumably even in real case scenario. Above, reducing plane linear friction, allows the pipe to move.

                              @delchrys said:

                              PS is ther a plugin for SU2016 to import 2017 files or a simple converter??? I cannot install 2017 at work due to lack of administrative rights

                              Click onFile->Save As and in the Save As Type, choose the desired SU version.

                              Regards,
                              Anton

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                                delchrys
                                last edited by

                                Little update


                                almost final 2016 complete2.skp

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                                  alvis
                                  last edited by

                                  The first impression is good, but for me it is still too difficult to understand some of the physical characteristics of the movement.

                                  Thanks

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                                    Anton_S
                                    last edited by

                                    Nice! If you change joint solver model to iterative 64 passes, the wobbling should be reduced by a bit.

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                                      pilou
                                      last edited by

                                      Found this! β˜€

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                                        ecati
                                        last edited by

                                        I modeled it as shown in the picture, but I could not move it as I wanted. Can you help me.


                                        ruffler Γ§izim.skp


                                        ruffler.jpg

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                                          Anton_S
                                          last edited by

                                          Ecati, the reason it doesn't work as expected is that the collision generated for the concave group is improper. You must divide the concave group into sub convex groups. Use convexify by fredo6 to do it for you. The link to the plugin is at the main post. Also, to see the actual collision generated for shapes, enable the Collision Wireframe in MSPhysics Simulation UI.

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                                            pilou
                                            last edited by

                                            Testing traditional thing! πŸ˜„
                                            GIF_speedarch2.gif

                                            Arch was made with the crazzy Convexify by Fredo!
                                            GIF_speed arch.gif

                                            As convexify don't keep gaps you must use Exploded view ;by CPlassais and me! πŸ˜‰
                                            Carving by Joint Push Pull by Fredo
                                            GIF_speedarch1.gif

                                            Frenchy Pilou
                                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                            My Little site :)

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