How 'clever' is CL3VER?
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**Hey guys, here I'm to provide support and any other information to use CL3VER.
I take advantage of this post to tell you that we are currently working on a new big release that is going to be live beginning next year. Everything in the editor will be more user friendly and the production workflow will be faster to allow you to create interactive 3D content for the web fast.Here our introductory video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LfwVzGlPIo
Here our FAQ with information about compatibility and file formats that I think it's very useful for a first approach to CL3VER: F.A.Q.
Meanwhile feel free to contact me here and I will be happy to help you.**
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@luca vidotto said:
we are currently working on a new big release that is going to be live beginning next year. Everything in the editor will be more user friendly and the production workflow will be faster to allow you to create interactive 3D content for the web fast.
Can you give us any details on what the 'new big release' will include?
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Hi everyone. Good news from CL3VER, the announced release announced last december is arrived. It took us a bit of time to have everything done but we are proud to announce the launch of CL3VER 2.0.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5Wop8yB5JM
CL3VER 2.0 is for FREE
Now CL3VER offer a [anchor= goto=http://www.cl3ver.com/users/create_account/:1a512lxn]FREE subscription[/anchor:1a512lxn] to the platform that offer a maximum of 3 published projects a month. Check out the [anchor= goto=http://www.cl3ver.com/pricing/:1a512lxn]new plans[/anchor:1a512lxn]CL3VER 2.0 new features
- New GUI, intuitive and easy to use;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgscl9Wrjuo
- Introducing the concept of ‘Steps’. Steps enable users to create interactive experiences as simply as if they were adding slides to a PowerPoint presentation;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_7yYENRDrI
- Automatic Lightmap Rendering (Beta): a unique feature of the new editor that gives presentations a photorealistic quality with a push of a button. [anchor= goto=http://www.cl3ver.com/tutorials/automatic-lightmap-rendering/:1a512lxn]Read the tutorial[/anchor:1a512lxn]
CL3VER offer a plugin fro SketchUp that allow you to import directly your 3D models to CL3VER. To get the plugin, [anchor= goto=http://www.cl3ver.com/users/create_account/:1a512lxn]create a CL3VER account for FREE[/anchor:1a512lxn] and download it from the [anchor= goto=http://www.cl3ver.com/plugins/:1a512lxn]Plugin page[/anchor:1a512lxn].
We will soon upload the plugin to the SketchUp Extension store and also here in SketchUcation.
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We have a brand new SketchUp plugin available in the sketchucation plugin store. You can try it anytime because CL3VER is FREE Sign-Up
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CL3VER now offer also "Offline publishing" to make CL3VER presentations available without internet connection.
How does it work?
Once the CL3VER presentation is ready you can download the scene in a .html file and open it anytime with a web browser. Easy and fast...For more information you can read this blog post.
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Too bad its "subscription software".
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Hi Pixero, so you don't like cloud based services? Any specific reason for that? It would be nice for us to have a feedback on this if possible.
Best
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I'd rather pay once and be able to use for as long as I wish than pay forever to be able to use something.
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I understand, so it's just a payment problem. We also offer yearly payment so you don't have to care about anything during a whole year. Thanks for the feedback
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I could see it having limited use on about 20% of our projects, being an excellent solution for about 2-3%, and pretty much pointless on the rest.
Therein lies the rub when it comes to a subscription; it's far from the only subscription-based service that would be useful at times, and those payments add up when you have a lot of them. It also means there might be months where we hardly touch it at all, but still end up paying full price for it.
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Useful comment AirWindSolar. You say "limited use on about 20% of our projects, being an excellent solution for about 2-3%, and pretty much pointless on the rest." I would like to understand why it's pointless provide a 3D presentation or a configurator to clients. It may be a ROI (return on investment) problem?
As for the subscription based model I understand that having the possibility to unsubscribe for a certain period is not considered as an advantage right?
Thanks in advance for your contibution
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@pixero said:
I'd rather pay once and be able to use for as long as I wish than pay forever to be able to use something.
I can't see how a web-based service can accommodate a one time payment, however. I have SW that has lasted beyond expectations. I know that some SW is just going to be defunct at some point if not updated (and supported). I like paying once on those. But a system that involves an online service from the start can't be expected to last indefinitely--therefore it is a monthly (yearly) service, just like Netflix. Like FormFonts. Perhaps someday there may be bargains for those who are really going to stick with it.
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@luca vidotto said:
Useful comment AirWindSolar. You say "limited use on about 20% of our projects, being an excellent solution for about 2-3%, and pretty much pointless on the rest." I would like to understand why it's pointless provide a 3D presentation or a configurator to clients. It may be a ROI (return on investment) problem?
For the vast majority of our projects, there's just not a demand. I'd say around half don't even get a model that goes beyond dropping the components onto the satellite view of the property. It's only on the larger ones or the occasional personal challenge that the sales reps are going to dedicate the time to get me the extra measurements and other site info to model out the site and proposed systems to that level of detail.
For the most part, the construction stage amounts to having our guys fabricate trusses in-house, precut everything except the uprights, and then the onsite crew is just pouring footers, setting the posts plumb, trimming them level and assembling the rest of the structure from a fairly simple 4-5 page Layout document.
Except for those big ones, I just can't clear the time to add much detail to jobs, and those just aren't frequent enough to justify an ongoing monthly cost for more software that will add even more time to the process.
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@airwindsolar said:
@luca vidotto said:
Useful comment AirWindSolar. You say "limited use on about 20% of our projects, being an excellent solution for about 2-3%, and pretty much pointless on the rest." I would like to understand why it's pointless provide a 3D presentation or a configurator to clients. It may be a ROI (return on investment) problem?
For the vast majority of our projects, there's just not a demand. I'd say around half don't even get a model that goes beyond dropping the components onto the satellite view of the property. It's only on the larger ones or the occasional personal challenge that the sales reps are going to dedicate the time to get me the extra measurements and other site info to model out the site and proposed systems to that level of detail.
For the most part, the construction stage amounts to having our guys fabricate trusses in-house, precut everything except the uprights, and then the onsite crew is just pouring footers, setting the posts plumb, trimming them level and assembling the rest of the structure from a fairly simple 4-5 page Layout document.
Except for those big ones, I just can't clear the time to add much detail to jobs, and those just aren't frequent enough to justify an ongoing monthly cost for more software that will add even more time to the process.
I understand better now and many thanks for the reply. I see here more potential for a online configurator that allow potential clients to configure/have an idea of the product and prices (but I think you prefer visit the place for a quote instead). Or you could use CL3VER to show your product and explain how they works including videos, images, panels and button.
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@pbacot said:
@pixero said:
I'd rather pay once and be able to use for as long as I wish than pay forever to be able to use something.
I can't see how a web-based service can accommodate a one time payment, however. I have SW that has lasted beyond expectations. I know that some SW is just going to be defunct at some point if not updated (and supported). I like paying once on those. But a system that involves an online service from the start can't be expected to last indefinitely--therefore it is a monthly (yearly) service, just like Netflix. Like FormFonts. Perhaps someday there may be bargains for those who are really going to stick with it.
Actually we have 20% discount for yearly payment http://www.cl3ver.com/pricing/
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We have a webinar scheduled for 21st May where we will be teaching how to export your SketchUp models to CL3VER and create an interactive 3D presentation for the web.
More detailed information and registration is available at http://www.cl3ver.com/webinars/.This is a good occasion for skeptics or those that want to bring their SketchUp projects to live on web and mobile.
We hope to see you there
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Are we talking non-Mac?
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@pbacot said:
Are we talking non-Mac?
CL3VER is a web based App so browser based. You can use it on Windows or Mac using Google Chrome browser. All answers about compatibility are available at http://www.cl3ver.com/faq/ at the tab "System requirements".
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@luca vidotto said:
@pbacot said:
Are we talking non-Mac?
CL3VER is a web based App so browser based. You can use it on Windows or Mac using Google Chrome browser. All answers about compatibility are available at http://www.cl3ver.com/faq/ at the tab "System requirements".
Luca, I have downloaded and am using the FREE version. However, I am having problems getting my models to load correctly. I like what I see but cannot recommend purchasing it until I can build a presentation using one of my models. I tried emailing the support group but was told they do no provide support for the free version. I fully understand that but if I cannot get one of my models to load correctly, how do I proceed?
One of the other questions I have is about SketchUp scenes. Are they supported? If so, how do I get them to show up in the project?
Starting this afternoon, it "hangs" every time I try to load a model (including the sample models). I like what I see in the samples but cannot get to a good starting point.
BTW: I think the video in the webinar is provided me with more useful information that any of the other tutorials.
I really would like to make this work but the quote I have from the sales is $1,500 per year. That is a lot if I cannot even get a presentation going. The sales quote also says 48hr email support. If I am in a crunch to provide a presentation (which I anticipate happening more than once
), that is not very responsive. Have you given any thought to having a support team here in the U.S.? I think it might help your product sale. -
@ntxdave said:
Luca, I have downloaded and am using the FREE version. However, I am having problems getting my models to load correctly. I like what I see but cannot recommend purchasing it until I can build a presentation using one of my models. I tried emailing the support group but was told they do no provide support for the free version. I fully understand that but if I cannot get one of my models to load correctly, how do I proceed?
One of the other questions I have is about SketchUp scenes. Are they supported? If so, how do I get them to show up in the project?
Starting this afternoon, it "hangs" every time I try to load a model (including the sample models). I like what I see in the samples but cannot get to a good starting point.
BTW: I think the video in the webinar is provided me with more useful information that any of the other tutorials.
I really would like to make this work but the quote I have from the sales is $1,500 per year. That is a lot if I cannot even get a presentation going. The sales quote also says 48hr email support. If I am in a crunch to provide a presentation (which I anticipate happening more than once
), that is not very responsive. Have you given any thought to having a support team here in the U.S.? I think it might help your product sale.Hi Dave, I have talked to the support team and is seems that the problem you're having is not related to the importing since you have correctly imported the model into your project and published it. If there is any problem of importing with a specific file you have to send the file to support@cl3ver.com so we can replicate the error and provide you with a complete answer.
We have a SketchUp plugin that you can download from sketchucation http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=Cl3ver or from teh official SketchUp extension warehouse http://extensions.sketchup.com/en/content/cl3ver.
We don't have any issue open on the SketchUp plugin, neither in the platform and projects loads fine. So if you cannot open a specific project please contact with support@cl3ver.com and provide screenshots of the error/problem to better understand the issue.
I hope this message can be helpful for you and the SketchUcation community.
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