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    • Dave RD Offline
      Dave R
      last edited by

      I haven't had that with any of the sketchy styles I've used. Are OpenGL settings the same between both versions of SU?

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        Charlie__V
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        @dave r said:

        I haven't had that with any of the sketchy styles I've used. Are OpenGL settings the same between both versions of SU?

        Dave,
        Yes,same OpenGL settings in both versions.

        Something is out of whack and I cannot seem to nail it down

        Turning off hardware acceleration has no effect.

        Charlie
        Edit:
        Seems turning off "use maximum texture size" resolves the problem....weird..never did that before.
        Also, the style stroke appears correctly in Layout.(though incorrect in SU)

        Precision M1710/Win 7 Pro 64 bit/i-7 6920 Quad core 2.9 Ghz -3.8/16Gb ram/NVIDIA M5000M 8Gb

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        • Dave RD Offline
          Dave R
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          Where did you get that style?

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            Charlie__V
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            @dave r said:

            Where did you get that style?

            "Stock SU Style"
            Style Builder Competition Winner: Pencil on light brown.

            C

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            • Dave RD Offline
              Dave R
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              Ah. I never use those styles anymore since I make my own.

              I have Use Maximum Texture Size turned on and that style works just fine for me. It kind of sounds like some sort of graphics related thing but exactly what, who knows. Weird.

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              • BoxB Offline
                Box
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                Just so you know, you aren't the only one who gets this.
                I have the same result on my newest and most powerful PC, while my older one doesn't do it.
                Turning off max texture does fix it but that also makes the tool buttons less responsive.
                I would dearly love to work out what causes these odd issues.

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                • Dave RD Offline
                  Dave R
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                  Too much power?

                  I had that sort of thing happen with a style I made with the first version of Style Builder but I put it down to the way I made the style and that I found a way to cheat to make a shorter line segment than is normally allowed. I've not seen it with other styles, though.

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                  • BoxB Offline
                    Box
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                    I'm not sure if you are joking about too much power....?

                    On mine it happens with any line style.


                    With Max.JPG


                    No max.JPG

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                    • Dave RD Offline
                      Dave R
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                      Yeah, I was joking about too much power.

                      It's a very weird thing. I wish there was some way to easily identify where this is coming from.

                      If you export a PNG or JPG does it look the same as on screen? What about if you increase the export size?


                      Maximum Texture Off


                      Maximum Texture On

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                        Charlie__V
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                        @box said:

                        On mine it happens with any line style.

                        Box,
                        I assume you mean with any Sketchy Style (image based linestyles)?
                        Edit:wait #1....I think I see what you mean in your second image...small but there

                        I do not have any problems with the regular linestyles (vector based).
                        Edit:wait #2....now I have to double check this...ckd & no problems with vector based styles.

                        Wondering if this may in fact be a bug in SU 2013?
                        Seems to me if it were a hardware/graphic card driver issue it would exhibit same in SU V8?

                        Charlie

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                        • BoxB Offline
                          Box
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                          Sorry Charlie, just to clarify, the my two images above are the same style, top with max texture on and bottom with it off.

                          Dave the export is the same blurry fat style.

                          It appears to be related to hardware acceleration as well, if I turn that off the style works with max texture on but things become slow.

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                            Charlie__V
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                            @dave r said:

                            If you export a PNG or JPG does it look the same as on screen? What about if you increase the export size?

                            Export is same for view size and of course "finer" for HQ export.


                            View Size Export


                            Export HQ

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                            • Dave RD Offline
                              Dave R
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                              I wonder how I got so lucky.

                              Hardware acceleration on

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                                Charlie__V
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                                @box said:

                                Sorry Charlie, just to clarify, the my two images above are the same style, top with max texture on and bottom with it off.

                                10-4 Understood......I get the same. (w/raster based linestyles only)

                                @box said:

                                It appears to be related to hardware acceleration as well, if I turn that off the style works with max texture on but things become slow.

                                I not well informed on the nuts & bolts of Open GL & Hardware Acceleration....but pretty sure this breaks any linkage to the Graphics Card and relys solely on "software" to process things. (hence the slowdown)
                                IOW.....yes it does relate.........but I wonder if you can really have max texture capability without the Hardware Acceleration on. (sounds good anyway) 😄

                                Charlie

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                                • BoxB Offline
                                  Box
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                                  Do you have an Nvidia graphics cards?

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                                    Charlie__V
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                                    @dave r said:

                                    I wonder how I got so lucky.

                                    [attachment=0:3mght2s6]<!-- ia0 -->hardware accel.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:3mght2s6]

                                    Dave,
                                    Beats me..........In your Open GL options......why not use the first option (40 True Color Medium 4x)?

                                    Charlie

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                                      Charlie__V
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                                      @box said:

                                      Do you have an Nvidia graphics cards?

                                      Nvidia Quadro600 (1GB).......2 year old machine.

                                      But again.....why only in SU 2013 and not SU V8?

                                      Charlie

                                      Precision M1710/Win 7 Pro 64 bit/i-7 6920 Quad core 2.9 Ghz -3.8/16Gb ram/NVIDIA M5000M 8Gb

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                                      • Dave RD Offline
                                        Dave R
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                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        @dave r said:

                                        I wonder how I got so lucky.

                                        [attachment=0:cbl0qscz]<!-- ia0 -->hardware accel.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:cbl0qscz]

                                        Dave,
                                        ....why not use the first option (40 True Color Medium 4x)?

                                        Charlie

                                        No special reason. It's the setting that was automatically selected when I installed SU and it didn't cause me any trouble so I left it alone.

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                                        • BoxB Offline
                                          Box
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                                          It's all very odd.
                                          I now have it set, Use hardware acceleration on and the other two off, and that seems to work best for me.
                                          Sketchy styles work, speed is good and I don't have the strange sloppy tool buttons.
                                          I'm sure it will be different tomorrow.

                                          Bugga, just realised I forgot which way I was holding my mouth....

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                                            Charlie__V
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                                            I did not draw attention to it in my original post, but look at the editor "stroke" preview pane.


                                            Stroke Preview Pane

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