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    • onzkiO Offline
      onzki
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      Hi, i'm having a hard time in making circular or radial railing as shown on screenshot below. After I created the path and used follow me, the object appears to be twisted instead of aligning it self parallel to ground. Any workflow suggestions? I appreciate your help, Thanks!

      http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9383/25o.png


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      • cottyC Offline
        cotty
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        The plugin follow me and keep should help in this case...

        my SketchUp gallery

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        • onzkiO Offline
          onzki
          last edited by

          @cotty said:

          The plugin follow me and keep should help in this case...

          Thanks, I'll give it a try. πŸ‘

          --update:

          It works great.. amazing plugin. Thanks for pointing me to it. Cheers!


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          • ShyamscoolS Offline
            Shyamscool
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            1. This youtube video explains how to create the lower face plate for a circular stair.

            however I have question, how did they make the sides? If you watch the video,it shows three stages to make the stair and I am stuck with the first one.. Plz help.

            1. Before using "follow me" to make the hand rail, how to I draw that "follow me" line that is bent in x, y and z axis?
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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              Look at the ground there is the section drawn! πŸ˜‰
              Simply traditionnal sketching!
              You make elevation for each step and then draw the sides' junctions πŸ˜‰
              Something like that!

              step.jpg

              step1.jpg

              step2.jpg

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
                last edited by

                When you have a step "module" (above it was one step and the lines under + sides' faces )
                you can of course use some cool plugins for make Rotation + Move Z in the same time!

                The more elaborated are "Grow" By TIG it makes Move + Rotation + Size in the same time! πŸ‘

                Memory Copy (clone) by Plot-Paris + Adam B simple but very efficient! πŸ‘

                If you want just Rotation + Move you have

                Copy Rotation by Sdmitch very cool because you can click anywhere for the copy! πŸ‘

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  @unknownuser said:

                  1. Before using "follow me" to make the hand rail, how to I draw that "follow me" line that is bent in x, y and z axis?

                  Its just the lines (so a curve) that you have previous drawn under the steps! πŸ˜‰ (as shown on my images)
                  Copy move it in Z!

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • pbacotP Offline
                    pbacot
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                    In the sample video the curve of the steps is many segments, not just one per step. Probably not an even layout--considering riser points-- in plan (though that would be good way to start, to appease SU which is little help in this case). So Shyamscols question is a good one.

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                    • ShyamscoolS Offline
                      Shyamscool
                      last edited by

                      http://i44.tinypic.com/ixwp5g.jpg

                      i was too impatient for y'all to reply... found my own redneckish way to do it...

                      ~i made the usual spiral stair boxes and put them in their places,
                      ~just like the youtube video, i made the lower face using curviloft
                      ~exploded the lower face
                      ~now curvilofted' the sides for every single step.. and finally
                      ~a bunch of smoothin

                      next time i will do it the easy way πŸ˜„

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                      • ShyamscoolS Offline
                        Shyamscool
                        last edited by

                        @pbacot said:

                        In the sample video the curve of the steps is many segments, not just one per step.

                        exactly!!!!

                        some other guy has commented on the video asking how the sides were made, a year ago!

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                        • ShyamscoolS Offline
                          Shyamscool
                          last edited by

                          @unknownuser said:

                          @unknownuser said:

                          1. Before using "follow me" to make the hand rail, how to I draw that "follow me" line that is bent in x, y and z axis?

                          Its just the lines (so a curve) that you have previous drawn under the steps! πŸ˜‰ (as shown on my images)
                          Copy move it in Z!

                          but since i unnecessarily made my circle of 500! segments, that line you talking about is a buncha segments, is there a way to make it one nice smooth curve?

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                          • pbacotP Offline
                            pbacot
                            last edited by

                            @shyamscool said:

                            @unknownuser said:

                            @unknownuser said:

                            1. Before using "follow me" to make the hand rail, how to I draw that "follow me" line that is bent in x, y and z axis?

                            Its just the lines (so a curve) that you have previous drawn under the steps! πŸ˜‰ (as shown on my images)
                            Copy move it in Z!

                            but since i unnecessarily made my circle of 500! segments, that line you talking about is a buncha segments, is there a way to make it one nice smooth curve?

                            You can select the curve and weld it with weld rb. or recurve plugins. But how did you draw it? It would be nice to just pull up the (welded) arc from the floor to a relative height based on the nosings, but that distorts the curve out of the circle. There's some good ways but I can't rememeber....

                            I think it is possible with Fredoscale "Planar Shearing (Free)" take the plan curve and group a copy, raise it up to the first nosing, draw a rectangle down from start point to end point, Use the rectangle to set the plane of shear. Shear it up to the end nosing. drop it down for the thickness of your structure. Smooth any existing vertical lines and if you weld the resulting sheared curve BEFORE exploding the group, all should be well.

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                            • pilouP Offline
                              pilou
                              last edited by

                              More practical
                              For Weld: Recurve by Diggsey

                              And there an existing one other by Fredo 6 πŸ˜‰ (some excellent tool in the same place) πŸ‘
                              Inside Curvizard (Make curve)

                              @unknownuser said:

                              that line you talking about is a buncha segments, is there a way to make it one nice smooth curve?

                              It's yet a nice curve! ; For select it just a double click is sufficient then use the tools above πŸ˜‰

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                              • ShyamscoolS Offline
                                Shyamscool
                                last edited by

                                follow me and keep" like he meant follow me and STAY! ( how i want you to stay!)

                                nice plugin any way.. works fine on win7+skp13+vray1.6

                                Awesome help folks!

                                thanks yall CO guys and all extension developers!

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                                • ShyamscoolS Offline
                                  Shyamscool
                                  last edited by

                                  http://i41.tinypic.com/6ep0f8.jpg

                                  still all choppy and sketchupish, how do i make that rail smoother?

                                  i pulled up the 100+ segment circle line for the railing from the plan

                                  next used it for follow me and KEEP... = choppy railing

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                                  • pbacotP Offline
                                    pbacot
                                    last edited by

                                    It looks like only 8 or so segments judging by the edges and endpoints. You would need more. What happened to the 100 segments?

                                    Perhaps you do know as well: Endpoints style will make the image look rougher. Output of image AA quality depends on resolution, will also look better in a render, etc.

                                    You will also get a more realistic smooth look if you add rounded edges to the rail profile. Weld (recurve) them prior to FMAK--they should be smooth for curved profiles. Even if you are looking for a chamfered appearance, all the corners look more realistic if rounded to some extent. They don't need too many facets, but should be softened/smoothed edges.

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                                    • ShyamscoolS Offline
                                      Shyamscool
                                      last edited by

                                      @pbacot said:

                                      It looks like only 8 or so segments judging by the edges and endpoints. You would need more. What happened to the 100 segments?

                                      Perhaps you do know as well: Endpoints style will make the image look rougher. depends on resolution, will also look better in a render, etc.

                                      "Output of image AA quality".maybe that's what it is? how do i mess with that? what IS that?:D

                                      http://i44.tinypic.com/2jb77fo.jpg

                                      so i am saying ~no matter how many segments you made your plan for railing, it turned out choppy/ first try was 25 segments.. second was 500 segments... same result... but thats a rough render there..( idk why my carpets fup like that)

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                                      • ShyamscoolS Offline
                                        Shyamscool
                                        last edited by

                                        @pbacot said:

                                        You will also get a more realistic smooth look if you add rounded edges to the rail profile. Weld (recurve) them prior to FMAK--they should be smooth for curved profiles. Even if you are looking for a chamfered appearance, all the corners look more realistic if rounded to some extent. They don't need too many facets, but should be softened/smoothed edges.

                                        and i Weld (recurve) them prior to FMAK by.....using which plugin?

                                        weld? πŸ˜›

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                                        • pbacotP Offline
                                          pbacot
                                          last edited by

                                          If you are rendering then the SU AA output doesn't matter. I was referring to if you are looking for a better image direct from SU.

                                          You can use Weld.rb or Recurve.rb

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