Render Question....
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Thanks for the responses.
The more I look into Thea the more impressed I become... And the new version does look VERY interesting.
Cad father: I'd be very interested to see an example of one of your "15 minute" renders, if you are able to share one? -
The new Thea will be the answer IMO, I really like the speed of the new BSD field mapping.
Here is a test, I purposely added more reflection to surfaces and spot lights to make it more difficult, I used the fast preset and it rendered in 3 mins 12 seconds on an old I7 (2.93 MHz)
All within SU, not in studio, so workflow is basic, model in SU and hit render.
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Wow, Pete
I think you have answered all my questions with that one render! And it looks like Thea will be adding me to their list of users very soon.
Really appreciate you taking the time to do this, thank you.Suppose that does just leave one question: when is the new version of Thea released? When? When? When?
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@andyc said:
Wow, Pete
I think you have answered all my questions with that one render! And it looks like Thea will be adding me to their list of users very soon.
Really appreciate you taking the time to do this, thank you.Suppose that does just leave one question: when is the new version of Thea released? When? When? When?
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That I do not know the answer to, I guess they are crossing the T and dotting the I's at moment.
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@andyc said:
And it looks like Thea will be adding me to their list of users very soon.
While I think Thea is great, I cannot stress this enough: try extensively before you buy.
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i wish i could post the original pictures - they were 3600x1600 but i can't.
however, if thea sounds good, you will not be disappointed - it's really a must have.
still, i'd get a copy of KT just in case - i found myself using someone else's computer (students) with all the trouble about installation, security etc. and of course licensing for a new machine (only if for 1 day) - i was glad i had KT on my flash drive...!
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It certainly seems like a must-have
I had a quick play with Kerkythea several years ago, but didn't really have enough time to look into it properly, and clearly the software has moved on a long way since.
Thanks again guys - I think you have solved my problem for me
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andyc - We're working towards matching features and workflow between V-Ray for Max and V-Ray for SketchUp, so our plugin is more consistent from one platform to the next. We are currently looking for good feedback with our 1.6 beta, from users that are migrating from other modeling apps to SketchUp, and are basically in the situation you have found yourself in. If you think you might be interested in trying V-Ray out, we'd love to hear your 2 cents.
CadFather - you are absolutely dead on, we are striving to have tighter SU integration, and a more complete feature set moving forward. We now have 64bit support, proxy support is looking better with each release, and we aren't done adding new features just yet
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The new version of Thea has just been released, new field mapping and Presto GPU version.
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Trying it out right now. Seems really good.
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@unknownuser said:
@dkendig said:
We now have 64bit support (...)
Wait, wait ... there's a 64-bit VfSU now?
http://www.spot3d.com/vray/help/sketchup/150PB/distributed_rendering.htm
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Thanks!
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you're quite welcome. I like how it was just snuck in to a minor beta release
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This thread is really helpful but I want to get more input from you folks who have a little more rendering experience.
I do object animations from time to time that require rendering and they can be from anywhere between 30 seconds and four minutes. I currently use Twilight and I love its ease of use as I don't do this enough to justify learning all the ins and outs of complex render software. However, when I do a longer object animation at higher resolutions in Twilight it really makes my machine (i7 laptop with Nvidia GPU) work its guts out and the animations take an inordinate amount of time.
There seems to be very little support from render farms for Twilight, I understand that this is because it is based on KT and KT isn't very network render friendly.....
What I need is a renderer that I can preview short animations with by rendering overnight on my local laptop and then send off to a renderfarm once Im happy with the final job. I love Twilight but I'm not sure it is the right tool for this.
I have checked out Thea, Maxwell and Indigo and they all seem to support multiple nodes.
What do people recommend as good "bang for buck"?
If you recommend Thea, please explain why it won't face the same network render limitations as Kerkythea.
I'm also interested as to how difficult it would be to run renders on AWS with these renderers that support multiple nodes....
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hi,
i´ve a question if you don´t mind.
there´are many excellent rendering apps for sketchup, many of them almost perfect.
some of them are almost unbeatable like vray.
lumion and keyshot are easy to use with cool effects, and with plenty of materials.
a friend of mine is curious, if there is any renderer to have the same qualities
together like those three i mentioned.
i hope to find the answer here , eventhough everyone usually votes for his/her product
has been using. so i mean the best impression, when you see eg. tut on youtube and so on.
thanks for understanding !
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@ashscott said:
If you recommend Thea, please explain why it won't face the same network render limitations as Kerkythea.
Kerkythea never been planned to use in any larger render farms, only with few nodes (still some have used it with Amazon EC2 http://www.kerkythea.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7051). It's safe to say that there are issues in KT network rendering, but it works if you have time to fiddle...
On the other hand Thea has rather robust network rendering and it has actual build in support for farms. You can build your own farm with tutorials available here http://www.thearender.com/cms/index.php/resources/render-farms.html or use some commercial farms.
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So Thea is built differently to KT? - My assumption was that they are built on the same base...
The example you linked to on the KT forum is pretty elementary - I haven't seen anything with KT that supports multiple instances...
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@ashscott said:
So Thea is built differently to KT? - My assumption was that they are built on the same base...
It's different. Twilight uses Kerkythea engine, but Thea is a different beast. If you have more Thea related questions, please join into http://www.thearender.com/forum/
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The example you linked to on the KT forum is pretty elementary - I haven't seen anything with KT that supports multiple instances...
You mean at EC2? If you read carefully http://www.kerkythea.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=62415#p62415
"... it is possible to network render inside EC2 by opening two instances...".or in just local network between your own computers http://www.kerkythea.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4234
Like said, KT network rendering is pretty crude and requires manual scene management... PITA to handle if you have several nodes.
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Thanks for the info - thats a lot of help.
I do so many hacky little tricks with SU that I've reached a point where I just want solid stuff that works, rather than spending time trying to figure out whats going wrong and where (entirely my fault most of the time)
Ash
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