Grey Out Issue is back
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:s
Uh... I thought it was fixed...
I've not seen this - so far... -
It even greys the menu item.
Never paid much attention to the old grey-out dilemma much but did it affect the menu entries also?
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Yup.
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I'm not seeing it but I don't have 'every plugin under the sun' auto-loading...
The outbreak of multi-downloading from the Plugins Store etc might result in too many plugins loading and making too many commands.They did up the command limit which fixed it last time.
A slow startup is an indicator of having too many plugins auto-loading...
Another cause that makes multiple-commands and thereby eats up the available command-quota was found during the last great gray-out débâcle...
Fredo [and perhaps a few others ?] had some tools that made a new command every time the tool was used - the old command was no longer used but it couldn't be 'unloaded' - so SketchUp itself started to dump commands to keep the total used number within its limits.
Once this was realized Fredo et al changed their code, so that the one command used for the context-menu/menu/toolbar was made just once, as the tool loaded, and thus the number of commands was minimized...There have been a number of new scripters turn up here lately and I just wonder if one or two of them has accidentally made the same error - i.e. having a tool that makes a command as it is used and not as it is initially loaded.
I hope it's not me
Didn't Fredo make a code snippet to see what commands, by name, were getting made/loaded ?
This could expose the multi-loading issue...
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http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=399439#p399439
Can you check this?
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As a tool it's relatively useless because the dropdown from the native Layers toolbar does this all less clunkily... It is from 2006!
However, the tool's code does NOT seem to make multiple command entries... so I don't think it is to blame...
I've loaded it and loads more tools I don't normally use and I can't get a gray-out !Rich [and any other sufferers] can you PM me a list of your plugins .rb/.rbs in the main Plugins folder...
As .txt preferred [sorted!] so I can compare it with mine to narrow down the possible culprits... -
How did I export folder files to .txt?
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@rich o brien said:
How did I export folder files to .txt?
I use this:
DirectoryListPrintProAnd, Rich, as you know, I get toolbars greyed out
I'll send you that info today. -
Doing it from within SketchUp... open the Ruby Console and type/copy:
Dir.entries(Sketchup.find_support_file('plugins')).each{|f|puts f if f=~/.rb$/; puts f if f=~/.rbs$/};puts
You'll get a list of all .rb/.rbs files that are auto-loading [sorted] from that folder.
Copy/paste that text into a .txt file and PM it to me...If you also have other 'custom-plugins-folders' that you have plugins in defined in your your
$LOAD_PATHthen you need to do multiple lists - change the text in the example above -
Sketchup.find_support_file('plugins')- to be the path to the custom folder - within''- e.g.'C:/Users/Rich/Desktop/MyPlugins'... Make a separate txt file for each 'plugins' folder... -
The first thing I notice is that I have double the amount of plugins loading !
So what is different?Here's what I don't have loading and you do...
You have some early loaders that I think you use to group menu items...
####camera.rb ####misc.rb ####TIG.rb **##hideEverythingElse.rb**
then there's
Add Vertex.rb addfaces.rb **ae_Console.rb ae_Snapshot.rb ae_ToolbarEditor.rb** angle_between.rb arcs.rb **as_loadsketchfab.rb as_loadsketchupnews.rb**
and then
cameraKeyMaker.rb **catmull-clark_subdivision.rb** CenterPointAll.rb cleanup.rb **Color_N_Gon.rb**
then
default_scenes.rb dimsvis.rb Double Line.rb EdgeFollowMe.rb **flightsofideas.rb** frontface.rb **GeoNuke.rb** grid.rb Groove Maker.rb **Hatchfaces.rb** **Image2Model.rb** keyframe_animation.rb **load_qpik_simple_rays.rb** Make_Components.rb **mshstick.rb** [WTF?] **normal_map_maker.rb** PolyLine.rb proxy.rb PutOnLayer_sortname.rb
and then
**RamTools_StepEx.rb** **recurve.rb** remove_inner_faces.rb rename_comp_inst.rb Re_Glue.rb ruby_console.rb scenetweak.rb selection_edge.rb **smoothStepAnim.rb** sptm.rb **susolid.rbs** **Terrain Tools.rb** **tgi3d.rbs** **Thea4SU_loader.rb** **TheaExporter_loader.rb** toggle_units_3icons.rb **Wikii_MRS.rbs** Window Settings.rbI have not even heard of some of these
I have emboldened some of my initial suspects [with NO proof - just gut-feeling! - the .rbs ones I can't look into anyway!].Can you try disabling some of them, restart and see if the gray-out issue continues ?
You have some 'bit-hitters' in there so I'd be interested to see what's what... -
catmull-clark_subdivision.rb is my experiment of a plugin. It adds one sub-menu to Tools with three menus and a separator.
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I can't read that bold text
Change the color
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I have six times more plugins loading that you - and no grey-out !!
So some of yours must be suspect !Here's the differences I have spotted...
**ae_ToolbarEditor.rb** Brighter3D.rb move_to_origin.rb move_to_origin_and_center.rb multi_face_scale_offset.rb Quick Lathe.rb **recurve.rb throw_to.rb Tile Grid.rb** **ToolbarBuilderFree.rb**You'll see that Rich has many different 'different ones'... so perhaps try disabling some of your common ones first ?
But it doesn't mean that some others may be screwing up additionally... -
Recurve seems to be the only one we have in common, but I've been using that for a long time.
Both Move to origins have had since I got off the ark.
The toolbar ones and offset scale have only been installed very recently and the greyout was before that.
Brighter3d, tile grid and quicklathe were about the same time.So I have removed a bunch and will see if it happens again.
Be a shame if it is throw_to or recurve, use them both a lot. -
ae_ToolbarEditor.rb ?
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@Box
The problem is not insolvable - if a tool is found to be make multiple commands it is possible to fix the code to avoid it... -
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@rich o brien said:
I can't read that bold text
Change the color
What are you on about? All the items are in 'ruby' bbcode with bold for those.
There's little difference... but there is some.
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I have one called !ae_LaunchUp.rb that I suspect may be the cause, what is it?
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