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    • H Offline
      honkinberry
      last edited by

      I got it to work, the issue is the "javascript:void(0)"

      As for why I'm wrapping a dialog in a class, it's for Mac compatibility (and generally seems a good idea). But since they are modeless on the Mac, it's the only way I could come up with nicely handling the dialog box instances and communication between them. Also I generally try to Class everything, whether Ruby or PHP or Javascript.

      As for the alert calls, ThomThom is right. Not only can you call "alert(0)" just about anywhere in any method, it's the fastest and easiest way I know of testing Javascript and Ruby->Javascript communication. Particularly as this is the issue at hand, thank god I don't even have to pass a string to Javascript alert, it's just totally my BFF in that manner.

      But back to the issue at hand, if you have this in a WebDialog html:

      
      <a href="javascript&#058;void(0)" onclick="window.location='skp;done'">Click Me!</a>
      
      

      That works on a Mac, but on a PC, scope returns to Ruby, but Ruby is unable to access any dialog box elements, the DOM is completely gone. The only thing I've been able to do with the dialog is to close it. You can keep clicking the link, and Ruby will still get focus, but get_element_value and execute_script fail without any error.
      So then this works:

      
      <a href="#" onclick="window.location='skp;done'">Click Me!</a>
      
      

      Which is bad programming form.
      See, I don't know, this discussion.

      I did originally find this topic:
      http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=25252
      But I had read it wrong, I thought it was the lack of javascript:void(0) that was killing his.

      So to repeat my question -- why on Earth would "javascript:void(0)" kill Ruby's access to the DOM?
      That just seems such an egregious bug.
      I'm going to be in Boulder in 3 weeks, so I'd like to personally thank whichever programmer is responsible for this. In a friendly way of course. 😄

      --J

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
        last edited by

        Instead of returning void, what if you prevent the event from bubbling further. That's what I do.

        Also, instead of a class in a class, why not subclass?

        I'll look further when I get home. Not at my computer to test right now.

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        • Dan RathbunD Offline
          Dan Rathbun
          last edited by

          Why use a <A> element ?

          Just make it a <DIV> element, which can also have onclick events.

          I'm not here much anymore.

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          • H Offline
            honkinberry
            last edited by

            Yes, there's plenty of ways around it.
            But there's also nothing inherently wrong with having a link with 'javascript:void(0)' as the href, is there?
            At least, in the sense of best programming practices.
            In fact, it is, without fail, the best recommended practice.
            So, my question remains -- why is it that every Sketchup developer in the world has to be careful to not accidentally follow best HTML practices, instead of one programmer in Boulder correcting what is ostensibly a single errant line of code?

            --J

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
              last edited by

              @honkinberry said:

              In fact, it is, without fail, the best recommended practice.

              In terms of a JS application?

              It's not in terms of website development - as then the href should be a working fallback in case of JS not being enabled. Which is why the onclick event should prevent bubbling.

              None the less - that's straying besides the point.

              Can you provide a complete working sample where your callbacks fail?

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
                last edited by

                @honkinberry said:

                But back to the issue at hand, if you have this in a WebDialog html:

                
                > <a href="javascript&#058;void(0)" onclick="window.location='skp;done'">Click Me!</a>
                > 
                

                That works on a Mac, but on a PC, scope returns to Ruby, but Ruby is unable to access any dialog box elements, the DOM is completely gone. The only thing I've been able to do with the dialog is to close it. You can keep clicking the link, and Ruby will still get focus, but get_element_value and execute_script fail without any error.

                I cannot reproduce this. (Windows 7, IE10)

                wd.rb

                <span class="syntaxdefault"></span><span class="syntaxcomment">#&nbsp;load&nbsp;'c;/wd.rb'<br />#&nbsp;Example.test_void<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">module&nbsp;Example<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;def&nbsp;self</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">test_void<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;path&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">File</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">dirname</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault">__FILE__</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;@</span><span class="syntaxdefault">dialog&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">UI</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">;;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">WebDialog</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.new()<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;@</span><span class="syntaxdefault">dialog</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">set_file</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">File</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">join</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault">path</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxstring">'sample.html'</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)&nbsp;)<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;@</span><span class="syntaxdefault">dialog</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">show&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">{<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;@</span><span class="syntaxdefault">dialog</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">add_action_callback</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxstring">"done"</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)&nbsp;{&nbsp;|</span><span class="syntaxdefault">wd</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">param</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">|&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">p&nbsp;param&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">}<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxcomment">#&nbsp;show<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">@</span><span class="syntaxdefault">dialog<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;end<br />end</span>
                

                sample.html

                <span class="syntaxdefault"></span><span class="syntaxkeyword"><!</span><span class="syntaxdefault">DOCTYPE&nbsp;html</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">><br /><</span><span class="syntaxdefault">html</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">><br /><</span><span class="syntaxdefault">body</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">><br /><br /><</span><span class="syntaxdefault">p</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">><br />&nbsp;&nbsp;<</span><span class="syntaxdefault">a&nbsp;href</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxstring">"javascript;void(0)"&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">onclick</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxstring">"window.location='skp;done@HelloWorld'"</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">></span><span class="syntaxdefault">Click&nbsp;Me</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">!</</span><span class="syntaxdefault">a</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">><br /></</span><span class="syntaxdefault">p</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">><br /><br /><</span><span class="syntaxdefault">p</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">><br />&nbsp;&nbsp;<</span><span class="syntaxdefault">a&nbsp;href</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxstring">"#"&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">onclick</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxstring">"alert(document.body.innerHTML)"</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">></span><span class="syntaxdefault">innerHtml</span><span class="syntaxkeyword"></</span><span class="syntaxdefault">a</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">><br /></</span><span class="syntaxdefault">p</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">><br /><br /></</span><span class="syntaxdefault">body</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">><br /></</span><span class="syntaxdefault">html</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">>&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault"></span>
                

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
                  last edited by

                  oh... wait... I didn't try get_element_value and execute_script.

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                  • TIGT Online
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Have you considered setting and using an enduring @@dialog rather than the instance variable @dialog ?
                    Untested, just a thought...

                    TIG

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      Ah. Now I can reproduce it.

                      2013-04-05_10h28_21.png

                      Very strange indeed.

                      However, I've never seen anyone using javascript&#058;void(0) instead of preventing the event from bubbling. First time I heard of this issue.

                      If you don't use a framwork like jQuery you have to account for old IE's weirdness:
                      http://www.quirksmode.org/js/events_order.html#link9

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                      • thomthomT Offline
                        thomthom
                        last edited by

                        Actually, you just need to return false from the onclick event.

                        <span class="syntaxdefault"></span><span class="syntaxkeyword"><!</span><span class="syntaxdefault">DOCTYPE html</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">><br /><</span><span class="syntaxdefault">html</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">><br /><</span><span class="syntaxdefault">body</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">><br /><br /><</span><span class="syntaxdefault">input type</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxstring">"text"</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> id</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxstring">"cheese"</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> value</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxstring">"Foo Bar"</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">><br /><br /><</span><span class="syntaxdefault">p</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">><br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  </span><span class="syntaxkeyword"><</span><span class="syntaxdefault">a<br />    href</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxstring">"javascript;void(0)"<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">    onclick</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxstring">"window.location='skp;done@HelloWorld'; return false;"</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">><br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">      Click Me</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">!<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">    </span><span class="syntaxkeyword"></</span><span class="syntaxdefault">a</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">><br /></</span><span class="syntaxdefault">p</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">><br /><br /><</span><span class="syntaxdefault">p</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">><br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  </span><span class="syntaxkeyword"><</span><span class="syntaxdefault">a href</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxstring">"#"</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> onclick</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxstring">"alert(document.body.innerHTML)"</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">></span><span class="syntaxdefault">innerHtml</span><span class="syntaxkeyword"></</span><span class="syntaxdefault">a</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">><br /></</span><span class="syntaxdefault">p</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">><br /><br /></</span><span class="syntaxdefault">body</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">><br /></</span><span class="syntaxdefault">html</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">></span><span class="syntaxdefault"></span>
                        

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
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                          Back tot the side topic of best practices:
                          It's generally considered best practice to separate content, layout and behaviour. That means all CSS in a .css file and all JS in a .js file.

                          And I've never heard of void(0) as best practice. I find it often in Bad Practices lists:
                          http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2005/06/three_javascrip_1.html#link3

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                            honkinberry
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                            Both of those links that you sent merely say it is bad form to put javascript into the href, which is true.
                            The javascript:void(0) is the recommended practice, indicating that the onclick handler is to take precedence.
                            In fact, the whole point of it is so that it onclick handler doesn't have to return false.
                            (See here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/134845/href-attribute-for-javascript-links-or-javascriptvoid0)

                            But good to know that was the issue!
                            Many thanks for your tireless attention to detail on every conceivable issue.

                            --J

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                              thomthom
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                              @honkinberry said:

                              Both of those links that you sent merely say it is bad form to put javascript into the href, which is true.
                              The javascript:void(0) is the recommended practice, indicating that the onclick handler is to take precedence.
                              In fact, the whole point of it is so that it onclick handler doesn't have to return false.
                              (See here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/134845/href-attribute-for-javascript-links-or-javascriptvoid0)

                              But when would you use void(0) in anything other than the HREF?

                              I still agree with with the this answer:
                              http://stackoverflow.com/a/134957/486990

                              There's a lot of information floating around which is lingering around from the older days. When going through best practices guides of well known web designers it's always to avoid inline JS. Which then removes void(0) from the equation completely.

                              @honkinberry said:

                              But good to know that was the issue!
                              Many thanks for your tireless attention to detail on every conceivable issue.

                              No worries. I had some spare time while I was rendering. 😄
                              And the WebDialog has been a source of so much oddity that I felt a strong inclination to check it out myself. I reckon it's still worth reporting, so if you're heading into Boulder then give them a nudge. 😄

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                              • Dan RathbunD Offline
                                Dan Rathbun
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                                @honkinberry said:

                                The javascript:void(0) is the recommended practice, indicating that the onclick handler is to take precedence.

                                I disagreed 3 years ago when we discussed this issue, and still do.

                                Read my detailed explanation in this old thread: Webdialogs and Javascript void

                                Any more discussion on this offtopic, can be done in that thread, if you wish.

                                I'm not here much anymore.

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