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    [Plugin] Face2Frame - Updated 27-Mar-2014

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    • sdmitchS Offline
      sdmitch
      last edited by

      Given the fact that the plugin was designed for vertical walls, I'm not surprised that it had a problem with floors and ceilings.

      The apparent overlap of the headers is the 3/4" plywood spacer between the headers.

      Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

      http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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      • KrisidiousK Offline
        Krisidious
        last edited by

        @unknownuser said:

        The apparent overlap of the headers is the 3/4" plywood spacer between the headers.

        Yes that was my addition... Here in America on the jobs that I've worked we use Plywood in our headers.

        http://biytoday.com/header.jpg

        By: Kristoff Rand
        Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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        • M Offline
          mics_54
          last edited by

          I haven't laminated headers in a decades...energy efficiency dictates 4x10 or 4x12 headers with 2 inches of foam insulation or spray foam on fully sheathed structures.

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          • KrisidiousK Offline
            Krisidious
            last edited by

            @mics_54 said:

            I haven't laminated headers in a decades...energy efficiency dictates 4x10 or 4x12 headers with 2 inches of foam insulation or spray foam on fully sheathed structures.

            Rich Boy... 🀣

            By: Kristoff Rand
            Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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            • KrisidiousK Offline
              Krisidious
              last edited by

              I must admit I have not framed a house in probably 20 years and I don't provide framing details as framers from different areas do things differently and I assume know their trade better than I. So I would defer to those who know better.

              By: Kristoff Rand
              Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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              • M Offline
                mics_54
                last edited by

                You're warm weather too...I do arctic construction.

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                • gullfoG Offline
                  gullfo
                  last edited by

                  i wasn't sure if that was a laminate or not but it's ok. in general, i see a lot of newer construction with the laminated i-beam for the headers (similar to floors and rafters) and a foam fill. i think the headers work as-is and folks can draw any details necessary to describe their preferred approach πŸ˜„ it would be really cool if you could "x" the ends of the lumber so a 2D / wireframe view can show it like a construction plan would...

                  Glenn

                  http://www.runnel.com

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                  • KrisidiousK Offline
                    Krisidious
                    last edited by

                    @gullfo said:

                    i wasn't sure if that was a laminate or not but it's ok. in general, i see a lot of newer construction with the laminated i-beam for the headers (similar to floors and rafters) and a foam fill. i think the headers work as-is and folks can draw any details necessary to describe their preferred approach πŸ˜„ it would be really cool if you could "x" the ends of the lumber so a 2D / wireframe view can show it like a construction plan would...

                    I considered that X as well, but not only at the ends but two faces all the way through studs, so that any stud in any location would show in sections as such. It would jump the polys up quite a bit but I don't think that would be a very big issue.

                    By: Kristoff Rand
                    Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                    • sdmitchS Offline
                      sdmitch
                      last edited by

                      Just posted an update to Face2Frame. Now does floors, faces on the XY plane, and adds "X"s to ends of studs, headers and/or joist.

                      Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                      http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                      • LAUFERONL Offline
                        LAUFERON
                        last edited by

                        I'm french and i'd like the same famous plugin in metric units !

                        A dream for woodworkers....

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                        • sdmitchS Offline
                          sdmitch
                          last edited by

                          @unknownuser said:

                          I'm french and i'd like the same famous plugin in metric units !

                          A dream for woodworkers....

                          Sorry, I don't do metric.

                          Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                          http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            You can 'metricate' it relatively easily...

                            @wall_type = "Ext" #unless @wall_type
                            @stud_size = "2X4" #unless @stud_size; 
                            @stud_space=16.inch #unless @stud_space
                            @header_size = "2X8" #unless @header_size
                            @corner_type = "A"
                            @thickness=0.0
                            

                            could become

                            @wall_type = "Ext" #unless @wall_type
                            @stud_size = "50mmX100mm" #unless @stud_size; 
                            @stud_space=400.mm #unless @stud_space
                            @header_size = "50mmX200mm" #unless @header_size
                            @corner_type = "A"
                            @thickness=0.mm
                            

                            Then in the html code... make similar edits so
                            <option value='2X2'>2x2</option>
                            ...
                            <option value='16\"' selected>16\"</option>
                            becomes
                            <option value='50mmX50mm'>50mmx50mm</option>
                            ...
                            <option value='400mm' selected>400mm</option>
                            and so on...
                            Now the cases for the stud sizes...
                            case @stud_size when "2X2" : dx = 1.500.inch; dy = 1.500.inch;
                            ...
                            becomes
                            case @stud_size when "50mmX50mm" ; dx = 38.mm; dy = 38.mm;
                            OR whatever...
                            Fix all 8 or so of those sizes...
                            unless @wall_type=="Int" || (@stud_size!="2X4" && @stud_size!="2X6") case @stud_size when "2X4" case @corner_type when "A" ; studs=self.A_2X4(xa,ya,p,v,dx,dy)
                            ...
                            Needs to be looked at...
                            unless @wall_type=="Int" || (@stud_size!="50mmX100mm" && @stud_size!="50mmX150mm") case @stud_size when "50mmX100mm" case @corner_type when "A" ; studs=self.A_50mmX100mm(xa,ya,p,v,dx,dy)
                            ...
                            Then rename the matching
                            def A_2X4(vx,vy,p,v,dx,dy)
                            as
                            def A_50mmX100mm(vx,vy,p,v,dx,dy)
                            etc
                            The parts like 1/2" plywood spacer need 0.5 replacing with 12.mm or whatever is the equivalent ?
                            Parts of the code like dx+0.01 which add a 1/100" spacing could be adjusted to 0.25.mm or some other small metric equivalent ?
                            As can [ruby:13xikt90]dx2-0.02[/ruby:13xikt90] to be [ruby:13xikt90]dx2-0.5.mm[/ruby:13xikt90]
                            It just a matter of steps through every line and deciding what is needed...

                            TIG

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                            • KrisidiousK Offline
                              Krisidious
                              last edited by

                              Counting in multiples and intervals of 10 is sorcery... Witch craft I say! Someone get a rope and a rock.

                              By: Kristoff Rand
                              Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                              • V Offline
                                virtualelvis
                                last edited by

                                What am I doing wrong? I cannot figure out how to find this
                                plugin to use it..
                                I put it in my plugins folder.. but I can't figure out how to use it...
                                I looked under draw and plugins...
                                thanks for helping a noob.. d

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                                • KrisidiousK Offline
                                  Krisidious
                                  last edited by

                                  Go to Plugins>SDM Tools>Face Tool>Face2Frame

                                  By: Kristoff Rand
                                  Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                  • sdmitchS Offline
                                    sdmitch
                                    last edited by

                                    Updated to be SU2014 compatible.

                                    Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                                    http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      I've added it to the PluginStore.
                                      http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=Face_to_Frame

                                      TIG

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                                      • KrisidiousK Offline
                                        Krisidious
                                        last edited by

                                        Not using 2014 yet, but thanks for the work guys...

                                        By: Kristoff Rand
                                        Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                        • utilerU Offline
                                          utiler
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi Sam, I note above you said you haven't considered converting this plugin for metric use and TIG has outlined how to 'metricate' it. I'm a little unsure how this is done; Do I try and open the script and edit it? A little risky given I nothing about coding....

                                          Cheers.

                                          purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                                          • PixeroP Offline
                                            Pixero
                                            last edited by

                                            You could try opening it in a texteditor. I use Notepad++.
                                            Set the language to Ruby and try to find the lines described by TIG.

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