Is this guy serious?!
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Hang on...........is Alex Jones allowed to have weapons? Did he get trough the 'loony filter' He is sane and of good character enough to satisfy the US government ownership laws? BRRRRRR...Shivers real shivers
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He has 50 of them, at least that's what he said. This guy is one crazy SOB.
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He's one angry dude.....
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Just part of an email that ended up in my inbox.
A LITTLE GUN HISTORYIn 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.
Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!
The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.
With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'.
During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!
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Cory,
Who said anything about taking guns away?
Are you saying that you need guns to defend yourself from your own government? if yes then why do you always vote for politicians that want to increase military spending? is that not contradictory to what you are hoarding guns to defend yourself against?
And if you say you are stock piling guns to protect yourself from foreign invasion then you have no need as the US military is adequately funded and stocked.
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I believe This is the start of them trying to confiscate guns. I do believe that Feinstein woman is the only one who has came right out and said anything about confiscation.
I hope and would like to think our own military would have no part of it since they take that oath about protecting their country from all enemies both foreign and domestic.
And I did not say any of that it was just part of an email that ended up in my inbox.
I do not hoard or stock pile guns either. I bought my first long gun a shotgun at the ripe old age of 12 years old with my own hard earned cash, and every rifle/pistol/shotgun since has just taken up another slot in a safe. How about we call it a collection.:] -
Have tried to stay objective......but.....
"During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!"
You are an idiot! you really are! plain and simple!
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Hey Steve, cool you jets there cheif!! You read that first sentence of the post that says "this is part of an email that made it to my inbox"? All I know for sure about the Japanese is that after the start of it all my grandfather ended up in POW camp for many many months.
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This information is pretty much accurate. However, it is misleading. The UK doesn't have guns and they only had 1.2 murders per 100,000. Australia doesn't have guns and they had 1.0, China probably doesn't have guns and they had 1.0, Canada had 1.6 and Monaco had 0. Monaco probably doesn't have a 100,000 people? None of these countries are on the list, at least I didn't see them. At any rate, the list was designed to be misleading.
From the World Health Organization:
The latest Murder Statistics for the world:
Murders per 100,000 citizens
Honduras 91.6El Salvador 69.2
Cote d'lvoire 56.9
Jamaica 52.2
enezuela 45.1
Belize 41.4
US Virgin Islands 39.2
Guatemala 38.5
Saint Kits and Nevis 38.2
Zambia 38.0
Uganda 36.3
Malawi 36.0
Lesotho 35.2
Trinidad and Tobago 35.2
Colombia 33.4
South Africa 31.8
Congo 30.8
Central African Republic 29.3
Bahamas 27.4
Puerto Rico 26.2
Saint Lucia 25.2
Dominican Republic 25.0
Tanzania 24.5
Sudan 24.2
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9
Ethiopia 22.5
Guinea 22.5
Dominica 22.1
Burundi 21.7
Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7
Panama 21.6
Brazil 21.0
Equatorial Guinea 20.7
Guinea-Bissau 20.2
Kenya 20.1
Kyrgyzstan 20.1
Cameroon 19.7
Montserrat 19.7
Greenland 19.2
Angola 19.0
Guyana 18.6
Burkina Faso 18.0
Eritrea 17.8
Namibia 17.2
Rwanda 17.1
Mexico 16.9
Chad 15.8
Ghana 15.7
Ecuador 15.2
North Korea 15.2
Benin 15.1
Sierra Leone 14.9
Mauritania 14.7
Botswana 14.5
Zimbabwe 14.3
Gabon 13.8
Nicaragua 13.6
French Guiana 13.3
Papua New Guinea 13.0
Swaziland 12.9
Bermuda 12.3
Comoros 12.2
Nigeria 12.2
Cape Verde 11.6
Grenada 11.5
Paraguay 11.5
Barbados 11.3
Togo 10.9
Gambia 10.8
Peru 10.8
Myanmar 10.2
Russia 10.2
Liberia 10.1
Costa Rica 10.0
Nauru 9.8
Bolivia 8.9
Mozambique 8.8
Kazakhstan 8.8
Senegal 8.7
Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7
Mongolia 8.7
British Virgin Islands 8.6
Cayman Islands 8.4
Seychelles 8.3
Madagascar 8.1
Indonesia 8.1
Mali 8.0
Pakistan 7.8
Moldova 7.5
Kiribati 7.3
Guadeloupe 7.0
Haiti 6.9
Timor-Leste 6.9
Anguilla 6.8
Antigua and Barbuda 6.8
Lithuania 6.6
Uruguay 5.9
Philippines 5.4
Ukraine 5.2
Estonia 5.2
Cuba 5.0
Belarus 4.9
Thailand 4.8
Suriname 4.6
Laos 4.6
Georgia 4.3
Martinique 4.2
And
United States 4.2
NOTE: ALL of the countries above America have 100% gun bans
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Please show source.
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Were those stats gun deaths, machete, knives? What is the context of those stats. Most of those countries do not have functional Governments.
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I think this is where that list came from.
http://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics/crime/Homicide_statistics2012.xls
Hey guys I just want to say I am not trolling or trying to get folks who do not like others point of view, or thoughts, in a uproar.
Just trying to say/show there are two sides to everything, and throwing some info I thought would be pertinent to the subject.
And that gun control done by banning anything is not the way I feel gun control should be handled.
And since Solo may ask, how I think it should be handled. I do not know.
I will shut up, forget about this thread if everyone just thinks I am some kind of crazy, and just trying to get people in an uproar. -
Steve, it does not matter if it was a gun or knife. Supposedly all those countries have 100% gun bans or darn close to it.
Just shows if the info is any good that banning/gun control for the most part does not do much good.
No matter how functional or nonfunctional the government.
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@solo said:
Are you saying that you need guns to defend yourself from your own government? if yes then why do you always vote for politicians that want to increase military spending?
pete, i'm thinking you've been in this country long enough to realize we are given two 'choices' for presidents... and they both always have surprisingly similar agendas.. (i guess it's not that surprising when you consider they're being funded by the same people.. i.e.-JP.Morgan gives lots of money to both candidates etc)..
but they all increase military spending.. regardless of what's said/implied during campaigning.. (remember, obama was going to stop the wars going on.. make some real changes... not!)
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@ccbiggs said:
Steve, it does not matter if it was a gun or knife. Supposedly all those countries have 100% gun bans or darn close to it.
Just shows if the info is any good that banning/gun control for the most part does not do much good.
No matter how functional or nonfunctional the government.
Once again I am not saying anything is fact or truth. Just something I thought was interesting info when I seen it.It does matter if it is a gun or a knife! If the school massacre had been done with a knife wielding murderer the deaths would have been much less, and more manageable by the staff, but it was carried out with an assault weapon ......What do you not get about that
Really exactly do you not get about that
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@ccbiggs said:
Hey guys I just want to say I am not trolling or trying to get folks who do not like others point of view, or thoughts, in a uproar.
nah.. it's cool. I (for one) don't see you as trolling.. and i hope you don't stop posting for fear of being attacked by people that disagree with you..
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@steved said:
@ccbiggs said:
Steve, it does not matter if it was a gun or knife. Supposedly all those countries have 100% gun bans or darn close to it.
Just shows if the info is any good that banning/gun control for the most part does not do much good.
No matter how functional or nonfunctional the government.
Once again I am not saying anything is fact or truth. Just something I thought was interesting info when I seen it.It does matter if it is a gun or a knife! If the school massacre had been done with a knife wielding murderer the deaths would have been much less, and more manageable by the staff, but it was carried out with an assault weapon ......What do you not get about that
Really exactly do you not get about that'Bump' gotcha Jeff
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@ccbiggs said:
This information is pretty much accurate. However, it is misleading. The UK doesn't have guns and they only had 1.2 murders per 100,000. Australia doesn't have guns and they had 1.0, China probably doesn't have guns and they had 1.0, Canada had 1.6 and Monaco had 0. Monaco probably doesn't have a 100,000 people? None of these countries are on the list, at least I didn't see them. At any rate, the list was designed to be misleading.
From the World Health Organization:
The latest Murder Statistics for the world:
Murders per 100,000 citizens
Honduras 91.6El Salvador 69.2
Cote d'lvoire 56.9
Jamaica 52.2
enezuela 45.1
Belize 41.4
US Virgin Islands 39.2
Guatemala 38.5
Saint Kits and Nevis 38.2
Zambia 38.0
Uganda 36.3
Malawi 36.0
Lesotho 35.2
Trinidad and Tobago 35.2
Colombia 33.4
South Africa 31.8
Congo 30.8
Central African Republic 29.3
Bahamas 27.4
Puerto Rico 26.2
Saint Lucia 25.2
Dominican Republic 25.0
Tanzania 24.5
Sudan 24.2
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9
Ethiopia 22.5
Guinea 22.5
Dominica 22.1
Burundi 21.7
Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7
Panama 21.6
Brazil 21.0
Equatorial Guinea 20.7
Guinea-Bissau 20.2
Kenya 20.1
Kyrgyzstan 20.1
Cameroon 19.7
Montserrat 19.7
Greenland 19.2
Angola 19.0
Guyana 18.6
Burkina Faso 18.0
Eritrea 17.8
Namibia 17.2
Rwanda 17.1
Mexico 16.9
Chad 15.8
Ghana 15.7
Ecuador 15.2
North Korea 15.2
Benin 15.1
Sierra Leone 14.9
Mauritania 14.7
Botswana 14.5
Zimbabwe 14.3
Gabon 13.8
Nicaragua 13.6
French Guiana 13.3
Papua New Guinea 13.0
Swaziland 12.9
Bermuda 12.3
Comoros 12.2
Nigeria 12.2
Cape Verde 11.6
Grenada 11.5
Paraguay 11.5
Barbados 11.3
Togo 10.9
Gambia 10.8
Peru 10.8
Myanmar 10.2
Russia 10.2
Liberia 10.1
Costa Rica 10.0
Nauru 9.8
Bolivia 8.9
Mozambique 8.8
Kazakhstan 8.8
Senegal 8.7
Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7
Mongolia 8.7
British Virgin Islands 8.6
Cayman Islands 8.4
Seychelles 8.3
Madagascar 8.1
Indonesia 8.1
Mali 8.0
Pakistan 7.8
Moldova 7.5
Kiribati 7.3
Guadeloupe 7.0
Haiti 6.9
Timor-Leste 6.9
Anguilla 6.8
Antigua and Barbuda 6.8
Lithuania 6.6
Uruguay 5.9
Philippines 5.4
Ukraine 5.2
Estonia 5.2
Cuba 5.0
Belarus 4.9
Thailand 4.8
Suriname 4.6
Laos 4.6
Georgia 4.3
Martinique 4.2
And
United States 4.2
NOTE: ALL of the countries above America have 100% gun bans
or are close to it.Most of those countries above are very poor, as far as developed nations go you cant really compare the US to Haiti Sudan and Congo! And most of those countries do not have gun bans - not even close. Half of them probably dont even have a functioning government at least five are dictatorships. Last year I went to Estonia and a few guys in my group went on a tour organised by the hotel to shoot shotguns, pistols, AK47 (automatic).
http://www.topguntours.co.uk/shooting-tallinn..html
This is the blurb:"Shoot 9 police type guns including some specially kitted out with all the latest tactical gizmos like laser sights, built in flashlights, and high capacity magazines. You will get to shoot the American M16, the Russian AK47, the Glock police pistol, a genuine "Dirty Harry" .44 Magnum, and the awesomely powerful Pump-action shotgun. Highly recommended!"
I understand the notion for rifles (low caliber with small box magazine or bolt action) for recreation and hunting but fully automatic and semi automatic military style rifles need to go. There is no logical excuse to own one in any sense.
Getting guns off the streets in the US would be very difficult but the first logical step is to start banning high powered weapons. Then massive investment would be needed to have some sort of collection enforcement, probably also have to reimburse owners etc the list goes on.
I dont know how the problem could be solved easily but I know its stupid to keep going the way it is. This isn't aimed at you btw biggs just in general.
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Steve, do you not read? Or do just have trouble retaining what you do?
When speaking in context to that list which is what we/I was discussing. There is no difference between a gun or a knife. When guns are banned in these countries and a list shows that homicide's are not zero, then my take on it is the gun ban/control did nothing. Except make it safer for the criminals to be criminals.
When or where do you see that I said a single thing about the school.
If you want to follow up on what I post, read what I posted.
And do not put words in my mouth!
There is nothing "I do not get about" what could have been. And the difference between that psycho having a rifle or knife that day in that school. Yes it more than likely would have been better for most everyone in the school that day if he only had a knife.
But on the other hand he could have had nothing but the clothes on his back, stole a bus and drove the damn thing straight through the place and done even more damage.
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