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    stefanq
    last edited by 7 Nov 2012, 15:55

    Hello everyone!
    I really want to learn another app, beside sketchup, as I could spend an hour or two every day. I'm trying to move on from my actual job, where I spent almost 10 years, and where things don't seams to get better. I'm doing the same thing every day, making cabinets, measurements, technical drawings, cutting lists etc. but less and less renderings. I'm aware about the specific applications for furniture industry, but I'm thinking to learn something like Rhinoceros, Modo, 3ds Max ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
    My first choice would be Rhino, as I really like the "CAD" feeling, and also, I feel comfortable with V-ray (is the same app. as for Sketchup). Plus, the demo version is fully functional.
    I tried Modo, and I loved it. The problem is, I'm feeling it's not ready for interior visualisation, but mostly for product rendering.
    3ds Max....the "industry standard" ๐Ÿคข ...expensive as hell.
    There is Blender as well, but I really don't know. It's hard for me to decide, and I think I need a push in one direction or another. That's the reason I've created this topic actually. So, push me! ๐Ÿ˜†
    Regards,
    Stefan

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      Rich O Brien Moderator
      last edited by 7 Nov 2012, 15:59

      MoI is a cheaper Rhino. Easy to learn and great support.

      Mainly for product design though.

      Blender is great and grows your skillset immensely. It does require lots of dedication but it is very well supported for tutorials.

      Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp ๐Ÿ“–

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        stefanq
        last edited by 7 Nov 2012, 16:11

        Hi Rich, thanks for your opinion, actually I just realised that if I learn Blender I could do freelancing as well, as it's free, and can not afford to buy software.
        Cheers,
        Stefan

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          dale
          last edited by 7 Nov 2012, 16:30

          I think if I had the time to learn another application (which I don't) I would learn Blender. My second choice would be C4D.
          But when I see what others are doing in Blender I am impressed. I have heard it is a steep learning curve though.
          Keep us posted on your progress.

          Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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            Rich O Brien Moderator
            last edited by 7 Nov 2012, 17:50

            You'll love Blender once you start.

            It's is so much fun and the workflow with SU is great.

            Once you begin to understand the material setup it becomes second nature.
            Not to mention it's UV Editor and Texture Painting. ๐Ÿ‘

            Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp ๐Ÿ“–

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              Lobster
              last edited by 9 Nov 2012, 10:54

              I would try Blender and Moi. I did.

              I ignored most of the features in Blender and concentrated on the modelling until i was used to the hotkeys. From then on it was easy to integrate the other features which work better on a well constructed model.

              Moi is just extremely logical. Read the PDF UI descriptions in the manual which are very clear and as a Sketchup user you should be good to go.

              Regards

              Sam

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                pilou
                last edited by 9 Nov 2012, 11:11

                For fun, hobby and Pro ๐Ÿค“ (for Polys Blender and a big learning curve)

                I will say Moi ! (Moment Of Inspiration) ๐Ÿ˜Ž

                That is the more crazzy funny easy Prog for Designers and Artists! (after Sketchup ๐Ÿ˜‰

                You don't see this anywhere! The SU of Nurbs ๐Ÿ˜„
                Created for be used with a Pen Graphic!!! (A mouse or some Space Navigators can be also used) ๐Ÿ’š
                So don't lost the hand artistic filling for drawing voluptuous curves! (2D or 3D)

                Incredible Ergonomy! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ
                Learning curve same SU! ๐Ÿ‘
                Best drawing aspect of curves in any old computers!
                Best transformation Nurbs to OBJ format!
                And this : you have the direct link with the creator!!! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

                Have fun modeling!

                Ps Fully compatible with Rhino <-> Moi by Crtl + C / Ctrl + V on the 2 ways!!! ๐Ÿค“
                Export SKP supported โ˜€

                In Free you have an infinite Demo existing without save for take the time to explore the Nurbs' world! ๐Ÿ˜„
                And the button print Screen existing + a save Screen HD (by a shortcut script) at any size following your graphic card! ๐Ÿ˜‰ here 2560, 2560

                script&#058;var v = moi.ui.getActiveViewport(); if ( v != null ) { moi.view.lineWidth = 4; v.renderToClipboard( 2560, 2560 ); moi.view.lineWidth = 1; }
                

                Click for zoom !

                by Marc Moisi

                http://moi3d.com/gallery/images/WIRE2.jpg

                by PaQ

                http://moi3d.com/gallery/images/NRX-GS_s.jpg

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                  stefanq
                  last edited by 9 Nov 2012, 18:13

                  Gentlemen, thank you all of you, I think I have a battle plan now. I'll look into MoI, and hopefully, I will be able to import into Rhino, for dimensions and such. Or, who knows, Michael will implement that in the future. For Blender, there are some good render engines available, so purtty images are solved. My biggest concern about learning Blender would be....nodes. Polygonal and sub-d modelling I'll manage, because I understand the concept, and I did some "gymnastics" over the years with some different apps. But nodes are new to me. I think these are the best option for me right now, I'll thank you again for taking the time to answer my questions.
                  Regards,
                  Stefan

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                    pilou
                    last edited by 9 Nov 2012, 18:18

                    @unknownuser said:

                    for dimensions and such. Or, who knows, Michael will implement that in the future

                    Maybe for the V3 because some many users have asked that ๐Ÿ˜‰

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                      stefanq
                      last edited by 9 Nov 2012, 18:44

                      Haha, that will be great! Pilou, sorry for the noob question, but what exactly should I do with that script? ๐Ÿ˜ณ
                      I played already with MoI, and I loved it. I'll register to the forum, to say hi to you and to Michael.
                      Look:


                      Ozz.JPG

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                        Mental
                        last edited by 9 Nov 2012, 20:31

                        The more softwares you learn the easier it is to learn the next one ๐Ÿ˜‰ The tools are pretty much similar

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                          Lobster
                          last edited by 9 Nov 2012, 22:34

                          You can use VRay I'm sure you can handle nodes in Blender.

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                            pilou
                            last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 00:14

                            @unknownuser said:

                            but what exactly should I do with that script?

                            How use it ?
                            copy past it in the right column of the Options Menu's Shortcut
                            in the left column you put any free combinaison of keys (like Alt + J)
                            And call it at any time you want when you have some cool things at the screen ๐Ÿ˜‰

                            What is it's use ?
                            it permits to save any screen shot in HD format at any size inside the clipboard
                            like 10 000 * 10 000 pixels if you have a very big memory inside your graphic card !
                            it's a cool trick if you use only the free version ๐Ÿ˜‰

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                              solo
                              last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 01:51

                              I'd suggest Blender as it has pretty much everything you will ever need.

                              Try this tutorial, I'm busy with it at moment when I get time: http://www.lynda.com/Blender-2-5-tutorials/Blender-2-6-Essential-Training/87088-2.html

                              Sent from my ASUS Slider SL101 using Tapatalk 2

                              http://www.solos-art.com

                              If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                pbacot
                                last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 05:38

                                Do you think blender is useful for archviz work?

                                MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                  stefanq
                                  last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 06:53

                                  Pilou, thanks, it works!


                                  alts.JPG

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                                    pilou
                                    last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 10:22

                                    @ Stefanq ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                    @Pbacot

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    Do you think blender is useful for archviz work?

                                    http://www.uncreated.net/ and bounce on the author Yorik

                                    By Yorik with Cycles (Blender)

                                    http://yorik.uncreated.net/images/2012/afmod21.jpg

                                    http://yorik.uncreated.net/images/2012/afmod22.jpg

                                    http://yorik.uncreated.net/images/2012/af2012013.jpg

                                    This book ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                    http://www.3dsaloon.fr/images/stories/blenderarchi_couv-590x327.jpg

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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