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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
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      Ah - a non-standard. That explains it.

      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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        driven
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        Found the problem, and a massive speed-up...
        > t=Time.now fontList=(/opt/X11/bin/fc-list : file family | grep /Library/Fonts).split("\n").collect { |f| f.split(":")[1] }.collect { |f| f.split(",")[0] }.to_a.uniq.compact.sort[5..-1] fin=Time.now-t puts fontList.length puts fin, Time.now-t puts fontList puts Time.now-t 296 0.049741 0.056441 *...print fonts* 1.440642
        however............ not everyone has X11
        john

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          driven
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          But, the good news is brew install fontconfig will put it in 'usr/local/bin/fc-list' without all the X11 or hidden system fonts... speed on first run, slower, but still acceptable
          then, the penny dropped that you no longer need grep or one of the collects, so
          t=Time.now fontList=(/usr/local/bin/fc-list : family ).split("\n").collect { |f| f.split(",")[0] }.to_a.uniq.compact.sort fin=Time.now-t puts fontList.length puts fin, Time.now-t puts fontList puts fontList.length puts fin, Time.now-t 274 0.017442 0.023794 ...print fonts 1.363478
          not to shabby
          john

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
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            So you HAVE got fc-list to work after all! πŸ˜„
            Don't you need to include 'file' in the output as well as 'family' and grep for '.ttf' because 3dText needs a /ttf and the 'family only' way might also list .otf fonts etc too, which 3dText might baulk at ?
            Something more like:
            fontList=(/usr/local/bin/fc-list : file family | grep .ttf:).split("\n").collect{|f|f.split(": ")[1].split(",")[0]}.to_a.uniq.compact.sort
            I'm not sure how you deal with the ".ttf:" - it perhaps needs some \ escaping ??
            If the 'grep' inside the MAC OS side is slower than doing a 'next unless f=~/.ttf: /' on the Ruby side, then you can add it into the 'collect' block instead...

            TIG

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
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              You got data back from fc-list using SketchUp Ruby??? ... but using a full path, that's the only change?

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              • thomthomT Offline
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                fontList=(/usr/local/bin/fc-list : family ) returned nothing on my machine.

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                  driven
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                  @tig said:

                  So you HAVE got fc-list to work after all! πŸ˜„
                  Don't you need to include 'file' in the output as well as 'family' and grep for '.ttf' because 3dText needs a /ttf and the 'family only' way might also list .otf fonts etc too, which 3dText might baulk at ?

                  YES... using fontList=(**/opt/X11/bin/fc-list** : file family | grep \/Library\/Fonts), but just to avoid X11 fonts, otherwise, all types [.ttf, otf, ttc] returned, work in SU [tested last weekend], so /Library/Fonts filter is OK.

                  @unknownuser said:

                  If the 'grep' inside the MAC OS side is slower than doing a 'next unless f=~/.ttf: /' on the Ruby side, then you can add it into the 'collect' block instead...

                  it's the core dump size that slows things down
                  IF YOU HAVE IT INSTALLED...
                  > t=Time.now fontList=(/opt/X11/bin/fc-list : file family `)
                  fin=Time.now-t
                  puts fontList.length
                  puts fin

                  138048
                  0.055793
                  nilBut,**%(#0040FF)[IF YOU HAVE IT INSTALLED...]** > t=Time.now
                  fontList=(/usr/local/bin/fc-list : file family )
                  fin=Time.now-t
                  puts fontList.length
                  puts fin

                  22832
                  0.073191
                  nil

                  t=Time.now
                  fontList=(/usr/local/bin/fc-list : family )
                  fin=Time.now-t
                  puts fontList.length
                  puts fin

                  5921
                  0.016585
                  nil`
                  now I've realised the full path bit, there may be other ways without using fc-list...
                  john

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
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                    You are using these paths:

                    /opt/X11/bin/fc-list
                    /usr/local/bin/fc-list

                    That didn't work for me (10.5). But this worked:
                    /usr/X11/bin/fc-list

                    Are any of the paths working across OSX versions?

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                    • thomthomT Offline
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                      So, because I've had problems even getting the data I've ignored the fact that you've been also getting the filename and grepping out by path. What is the reason for this. So you only get fonts that works in SketchUp?

                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                      • thomthomT Offline
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                        This worked on my machine:

                        <span class="syntaxdefault"><br />data&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=&nbsp;(`</span><span class="syntaxstring">/usr/X11/bin/fc-list&nbsp;;&nbsp;file&nbsp;family&nbsp;|&nbsp;grep&nbsp;\/Library\/Fonts</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">`)<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">fonts&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">data</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">scan</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(/[^;]+[;]\</span><span class="syntaxdefault">s</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">*(.*)/).</span><span class="syntaxdefault">flatten</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">!<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">fonts</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">map</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">!&nbsp;{&nbsp;|</span><span class="syntaxdefault">string</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">|&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">string</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">split</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxstring">','</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)&nbsp;}.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">flatten</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">!&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxcomment">#&nbsp;Some&nbsp;lines&nbsp;include&nbsp;multiple&nbsp;fonts.<br />&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault"></span>
                        

                        😍

                        Now it's just a matter of reliably finding the path on all the systems.

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
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                          <span class="syntaxdefault"><br />def&nbsp;get_osx_fonts<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;fc_list_locations&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=&nbsp;[<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxstring">'/opt/X11/bin/fc-list'</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxstring">'/usr/local/bin/fc-list'</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxstring">'/usr/X11/bin/fc-list'<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">]<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">fc_list&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">fc_list_locations</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">find&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">{&nbsp;|</span><span class="syntaxdefault">location</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">|&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">File</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">exist</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">?(&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">location&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)&nbsp;}<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;if&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">fc_list</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">nil</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">?<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">puts&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxstring">'Warning;&nbsp;Could&nbsp;not&nbsp;find&nbsp;fc-list!'<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">return&nbsp;[]<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">end<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;data&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=&nbsp;(`</span><span class="syntaxstring">#{fc_list}&nbsp;;&nbsp;file&nbsp;family&nbsp;|&nbsp;grep&nbsp;\/Library\/Fonts</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">`)<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">fonts&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">data</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">scan</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(/[^;]+[;]\</span><span class="syntaxdefault">s</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">*(.*)/).</span><span class="syntaxdefault">flatten</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">!<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">fonts</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">map</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">!&nbsp;{&nbsp;|</span><span class="syntaxdefault">string</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">|&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">string</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">split</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxstring">','</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)&nbsp;}.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">flatten</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">!&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxcomment">#&nbsp;Some&nbsp;lines&nbsp;include&nbsp;multiple&nbsp;fonts.<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">fonts</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">uniq</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">!<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">fonts</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">sort</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">!&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxcomment">#&nbsp;(!)&nbsp;Not&nbsp;UTF-8&nbsp;compatible!&nbsp;But&nbsp;better&nbsp;than&nbsp;nothing.<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">fonts<br />end<br /></span>
                          

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                            driven
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                            hi TT,
                            I did PM before I saw this, I would split it into 3 conditional block

                            the first would use /usr/local/bin/fc-list
                            if you revisit http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=48761&p=443899#p441686 you'll see that you don't need to grep /usr/local/bin/fc-list, because it avoids the system and X11 fonts already.

                            second choose last in find /**/bin/fc-list array, for the latest X11 version

                            third default to 'FontBook' it's on every mac....

                            john

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                            • thomthomT Offline
                              thomthom
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                              Isn't fc-list on every mac?

                              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                driven
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                                @thomthom said:

                                Isn't fc-list on every mac?

                                TT... don't you read PM's or the posts... [I am laughing]

                                reminds me of when you answer some of your 'clients'

                                The whole reason I went round in circles is fc=list has never been 'standard' on a mac.

                                a lot of people use to have xcode and it came with that as part of fontconfig for X11,

                                or if you have Wings3D, Gimp, Inkscape or Imagemagics you'd have it, so a few SU'ers will. but they all have FontBook it's a mac core app....

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                                  driven
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                                  TO RECAP
                                  This is the fastest I can get a usable list from X11
                                  if I remove .split[-2] from fontPath it uses /usr/local/bin and is twice as fast, same result... so the one could be used for any fc-list installed, without hardcoding a path.

                                   fontPath=(`find /*/*/bin/fc-list`).split[-2]
                                  fontList=(`#{fontPath}  ; file family | grep \/Library\/Fonts`).split("\n").collect { |f| f.split(";")[1] }.collect { |f| f.split(",")[0].strip}.to_a.uniq.compact.sort[5..-5]
                                  

                                  the .sort[5..-5] cleans out the dot files at top and some other cruft the the bottom...
                                  john
                                  EDIT: I missed a .strip that stop them running... leading whitespace.
                                  on test a couple are getting through that shouldn't
                                  *** macFonts group Error! *** i = 38 chunk = 4 font = Bitstream Charter Error #<TypeError: reference to deleted Group> Error: #<TypeError: (eval):282:inname=': reference to deleted Group>
                                  (eval):299
                                  (eval):282
                                  (eval):274:in times' (eval):274

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                                    @driven said:

                                    TT... don't you read PM's or the posts... [I am laughing]

                                    I've become so confused on this whole topic. πŸ˜•

                                    @driven said:

                                    This is the fastest I can get a usable list from X11

                                    fontPath=(find ///bin/fc-list).split[-2]
                                    That command was very slow on my mac.

                                    @driven said:

                                    the .sort[5..-5] cleans out the dot files at top and some other cruft the the bottom...
                                    Can you be sure this is the same on all machines? I'm hesitant to use magic numbers.

                                    OSX is giving me headackes in regard to this plugin. I'm tempted to just drop it all together. Taking too much time.

                                    At the moment I'm looking at first attempting fc-list, if it's installed. (Might have to do a search - so I have to cache that.) Then fall back to AppleScript and FontBook - also slow so it also needs a cache list (meaning the list won't automatically keep in sync.)

                                    sigh

                                    And that's not including the crashing...

                                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                      driven
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                                      TT, maybe you want to move this, but
                                      I was looking for a UFT8 font filter and came across a simple test code for checking console encoding.

                                      I thought Ruby Console was UFT8, but it's not?

                                      I made a little test script, and ran it both from console and from plugins.
                                      same result from both...

                                      >  msg = (`perl -Mcharnames=;full -CS -wle 'print "\N{EURO SIGN}"'`).to_s
                                       puts msg
                                       rply = (`locale`).to_s
                                       puts rply
                                       result = UI.messagebox msg, MB_YESNO
                                       if result == 6 # Yes
                                         UI.messagebox("Sketchup dosen't use UFT8, it uses \n" + rply)
                                       end
                                      N{EURO SIGN}
                                      LANG=
                                      LC_COLLATE="C"
                                      LC_CTYPE="C"
                                      LC_MESSAGES="C"
                                      LC_MONETARY="C"
                                      LC_NUMERIC="C"
                                      LC_TIME="C"
                                      LC_ALL=
                                      1
                                      

                                      for comparison Terminal.app results

                                      %(#008000)[johns_iMac at upstairs in ~
                                      $ locale
                                      LANG="en_US"
                                      LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
                                      LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
                                      LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
                                      LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
                                      LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
                                      LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
                                      LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8"
                                      johns_iMac at upstairs in ~
                                      $ perl -Mcharnames=:full -CS -wle 'print "\N{EURO SIGN}"'
                                      €]
                                      john

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
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                                        It's UTF-8.

                                        Test example:
                                        'ΓΈ'.unpack('C*')

                                        Returns:
                                        [195, 184]

                                        Which is the correct byte values in UTF-8 encoding.

                                        195 indicate the Latin1 page 184 points to ΓΈ on that page.

                                        Don't know what the data you got from them commands where. But just by looking at the test data byte per byte you can tell it's UTF-8.

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                                          driven
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                                          yes that does return correctly,
                                          which is why I can't understand why some thing get lost in transition...
                                          same font Stix(NON-Unicde)
                                          Top happens from Ruby Console as well as WebDialogs
                                          Bellow is the Built in Tool
                                          john

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                                            hm... I've not have any problems with it.

                                            Do you see this in the 3d text plugin I sent you?

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