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    • M Offline
      medicanic7
      last edited by

      Hello forum.

      I'm new to using SketchUp and Proper Animation plugin, but already I enjoy creating my first model. In my model, I am attempting to animate an assemblage of parts belonging to a small step stool. The plugin is perfect for making assembled parts look like they are smoothly moving into place. One problem confronts me, however. One of the components rotates 90 degrees, but I want the component to move linearly from one position (#5) to the next one (#6) without any rotation whatsoever. How can I prevent the component from rotating?

      Thank you for your assistance. When my animation is complete I will post a link to my YouTube video of the animation so that other users of this plugin can see what animations can possibly be created. I am using Proper Animation V1.09. ๐Ÿ˜›


      Shaker step stool.skp

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        medicanic7
        last edited by

        Hello Pilou. ๐Ÿ‘

        Thank you for responding. Where can I find the official SketchUp 6 downloadable file? The older versions posted on authorized SketchUp forums declare that they are compatible for Mac and Windows, but not Windows Vista, which is what I am using.

        David

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        • pilouP Offline
          pilou
          last edited by

          No, no ๐Ÿ˜‰
          When you save a file inside your Version 8 that you are using you can save your file for any other previous versions! ๐Ÿ˜‰

          Menu FIle / "save as" little black triangle at the end's line... / V6

          If really you want for your collection an old versions go there and scroll! ๐Ÿ˜‰

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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            medicanic7
            last edited by

            Hello Pilou,

            Thank you for letting me know about the ability to save to older versions. I saved my file as type version 6 and added a โ–ฒ to the end of the file name. The Proper Animation plugin is a great tool for my animation needs.

            Again, your willingness to help me solve the rotation issue is greatly appreciated. ๐Ÿ˜„

            SketchUp fan,
            David


            Shaker step stool โ–ฒ.skp

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            • mitcorbM Offline
              mitcorb
              last edited by

              Would this movement have anything at all to do with that component's local axes/origin? Just asking.

              I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                medicanic7
                last edited by

                Hello mitcorb,

                I don't know enough about SketchUp or the plugin I am using, but your suggestion might be a valid since the left side (red) component is rotating for some reason. I saved every property allowed when saving a scene and I did that for every scene. All those scene properties are new to me so I may have saved or modified something unwittingly. When I started the model the origin of the axes was away from any of the components in the model. There are two sets of similar components; one is wood colored and the other is red colored and that is how I come to have 14 total components and, likewise, 14 layers.

                Any further exploration of this is appreciated. I'm looking for some experienced guidance. Thank you.

                David

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  ๐Ÿ˜‰

                  black_triangle.jpg

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • pilouP Offline
                    pilou
                    last edited by

                    If you post your file in V6, maybe I can help you ๐Ÿ˜‰ ("save as" little black triangle at the end's line... V6)

                    Else for animation Mover By CMD is a little bit more easy than Proper of Animation ๐Ÿ˜„ (in my point of view) ๐Ÿ˜‰

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                      medicanic7
                      last edited by

                      Pilou, you provided me with a lot of helpful suggestions, especially the ideas of using Mover, keeping all components visible but outside the drawing area, and selecting components from the Outliner tool. I will learn more about Outliner and try to replicate some of the ideas you offered. Also, I will install Mover and review your attached file. โ˜€

                      I am laughing for having put the black triangle in the file name. ๐Ÿ˜ณ

                      Thank you for investigating my problem to the extent you did. I learned a lot of things from the information you provided. If I get my animation completed, I will post the file in this thread for everyone to review. Other users may benefit from my efforts, too. ๐Ÿ˜›

                      Have a fun day!

                      David

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        I don't believe that i will refound your rotation problem
                        That can be so many thing...no update something at the good moment, a bad move, a bad rotation,
                        a bad selection, bad axes on the component, a bad set get position, etc...
                        I found the Proper animation system very heavy! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                        Just a little example with Mover ๐Ÿ˜‰
                        You have no need more than that for animate anything! ๐Ÿ˜Ž
                        No layers, no list of start End Set Get...
                        Here all elements are -100

                        The only thing to make is
                        Select something : Menu Plugins / Remember Position Selected
                        If you want see the previous position : Menu Plugins / Show Location Preserved Position

                        If you want a second move of a same now visible element just select it
                        make a rotation for example
                        and Menu Plugins / Remember Position Selected

                        You can of course add Layers for visibily or not of an element if you want
                        (or more easy just select that you dont want see right Click / Hide and Update the active scene)
                        etc...(made method of the layer on the file linked ๐Ÿ˜‰
                        No more simple ๐Ÿ˜„

                        For unmove -100 an element : Select the element you want inside the Outliner
                        As you don't see it call the just click on the empty space
                        move up (blue axe)and input 100 : the element come back at its original position! ๐Ÿ˜‰
                        Have fun ! Of course for see the animation of elements I believe that Mover must be installed ๐Ÿค“

                        PS As you can see the rotation is not fine because it's group and axe can't be modify ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
                        It's rotate on its own axes!
                        So better is to use component! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                        ;UI minimalistic ๐Ÿ˜„
                        mover02.jpg


                        move_example.skp

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                        • pilouP Offline
                          pilou
                          last edited by

                          Thx for the V6 โ˜€

                          Why do you use layers ?
                          It's twice and painful work!
                          What do you think of this concept ?
                          Putting the components or objets up and bottom
                          you can rotate the view without see them !
                          And all are visible inside the Menu Window/Outliner
                          For example you start from your complete model
                          then move each element +100 or -100 on Z
                          in each scene
                          you have just to choose it on the Outliner and make the inverse move -100 or +100 on Z!
                          when you need one of them in a scene ๐Ÿ˜‰

                          Because animate with layers is easy with less elements but a nightmare with more than 5 ๐Ÿ˜„
                          And also a nightmare with the Proper Animation ๐Ÿ˜„

                          I will see your problem of rotation of the red element ๐Ÿ˜„

                          concept1.jpg

                          Frenchy Pilou
                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                          My Little site :)

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                            medicanic7
                            last edited by

                            Pilou,

                            I followed your example about exploding the components to first be positioned far enough out of view of the final drawing area. Great idea! ๐Ÿ‘ I managed to complete my animation exactly the way I wanted to using your suggestions. ๐Ÿ˜„

                            The .avi file appears differently than the .skp file after I export the animation. How can I fix this?

                            Since this is a new topic, I will post it as a new one.

                            Thank you. ๐Ÿ˜›

                            David


                            Shaker-style, 2-step stool V6.skp

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