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      rumcajs
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      That plugin is really cool. I've seen face editing. Cool. Thanks.

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        rumcajs
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        It works, but I have problem with the neck. I have did a mistake when I scaled a neck and saved it. The neck had torned off. I needed to rescale it, but it did not connect with the body already. How to connect it? I cannot draw on it until it is connected back.

        http://i47.tinypic.com/2evpz7l.png

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          pilou
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          Impossible to answer without file ๐Ÿ˜„
          (save as V6)

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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            rumcajs
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            I had a dream about SU during I slept (Yes, I work during my sleep!). It was that I could draw soft edges or smooth edges directly. I realized, that I don't know if is it possible? Acually I don't know much about soft edges, I've just look for help and found Soft edges dialog box:
            http://support.google.com/sketchup/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=114940
            But where can I found this box? I had seen it somewhere days ago.

            Next thing I have in my brain now is that, it could be good if we could have a mode for interference for segments. For example, I want to find some segment and must click it before I can resize/rescale it. Would not be much better to click directly on the ends of segment? Just idea.

            I did not yet check the last plugin.

            Here is the file:


            human body v6.skp

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              Gaieus
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              @rumcajs said:

              ...Yes, I work during my sleep!...

              Interesting. I have something similar: I sleep during my work! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

              @unknownuser said:

              ...It was that I could draw soft edges or smooth edges directly...

              Maybe with this plugin? http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=37359

              Gai...

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                pilou
                last edited by

                The box is here :Menu WIndow / Soften edges ๐Ÿ˜‰

                Else subdivision modeling for Sketchup is here ๐Ÿ˜‰
                Artisan by Whaat (39$ )
                A free very basic is here by Rick Wilson
                or more recent with another concept by guitar list

                http://www.guitar-list.com/files/styles/article-pic/public/gearpics/Smooth-glass.jpg

                http://forum.zbrush.fr/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1622.0;attach=26902;image

                All for segments and vertex is here : Vertex Tools by Thomthom (20 $)

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  About the neck
                  Why do you say that is not more part of the body ?

                  @unknownuser said:

                  but it did not connect with the body already. How to connect it?

                  Seems it is ๐Ÿ˜„
                  In front view inside the level of the group / component
                  Just make a box selection from right to left (so else who touch this box is selected) on the "cone neck"
                  then right click / reverse faces

                  When you move a segment of the neck it moves also the body, so it's makes part of the body ๐Ÿ˜„

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                    rumcajs
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                    The color. Why the neck has blue color and the body is white?

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                      numbthumb
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                      Reversed faces.

                      Comfortably numb...

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        Yep reverse face : blue can't receive the light of sun (so internal faces - backface)
                        White = receive the light of sun (so external faces)

                        Useful for the render program !

                        If you select one face of a volume* then right Click / Orient faces (different than Reverse faces !!! )
                        all faces of the volume will take the "work's color" (blue or white) of the first face clicked!

                        • if the volume is well built ๐Ÿ˜‰

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                          rumcajs
                          last edited by

                          I've got it.

                          Any suggestions how to correct shoulders muscles, up on collar bone? So called posterior lateral triangle of Trapezius muscle? This is the muscle which leads from top of shoulder up to neck.

                          http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QSWjVVJqt0k/T_W7sQDyQJI/AAAAAAAAA0E/rkmUw573Jis/s1600/8_31_10-shoulder+muscles.jpg

                          Also I tried the Cross Section tool to add a circle bellow neck from Tgi3D, but it writes to me: Cannot resolve cross section. This is after I reversed the neck faces. I don't know if it is the cause, because this should not have effect. I click just outside the neck. Try.

                          Question:
                          Do you know some video tutorial how to model head from the sphere or oval? This head does not look good at all. I don't need to model face, but just the main proportions of the head.


                          human body v6.skp

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                            rumcajs
                            last edited by

                            Q: When I try to rotate arms, should I rotate it outside or inside model? I see my model's arms are not exactly in same (mirrored) position.

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                              pilou
                              last edited by

                              If you want really sculpt anatomy, maybe Sketchup is not the best tool for that ๐Ÿ˜‰
                              of course you can use the Vertextools but...it's "old school" polygon sculpting! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                              [flash=560,315:uck4kicz]http://www.youtube.com/v/xfM02PleFMg[/flash:uck4kicz]

                              Try more Sculptris, a free crazzy one !

                              Or if you want more elaboate body in SU use the Free Make Human and imort it inside SKetchup ! โ˜€

                              That is the method of Orgelf! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                                pilou
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                                @unknownuser said:

                                Q: When I try to rotate arms, should I rotate it outside or inside model?
                                I see my model's arms are not exactly in same (mirrored) position.

                                If it's component themselves : rotate it outside the component else all other componant (mirrored) will rotate also!

                                @unknownuser said:

                                Also I tried the Cross Section tool to add a circle bellow neck from Tgi3D,

                                I have not this one so can't answer ๐Ÿ˜ณ

                                @unknownuser said:

                                Any suggestions how to correct

                                add some segments and move them but it's very difficult work!

                                About video
                                type sculpt face modeling in youtube ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                or this one ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                  rumcajs
                                  last edited by

                                  Yeah, that is exactly that case as I mention here:
                                  http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=47752

                                  That when I rotated the arms (outside of component), they were not correct (same angles), but I did not see that. Even now after correction, they are not on 100% same angles. I would like to see some plugin for situation like this.

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                                    rumcajs
                                    last edited by

                                    You are right, I have seen this and they use mirroring function.
                                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFqopkUTO0Q&feature=relmfu

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                                      pilou
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                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      they are not on 100% same angles. I would like to see some plugin for situation like this.

                                      No need of plugin for that ๐Ÿ˜„
                                      Just take this who is in good position then make a "scale -1" in the direction wished!

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                        rumcajs
                                        last edited by

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        Q: When I try to rotate arms, should I rotate it outside or inside model?
                                        I see my model's arms are not exactly in same (mirrored) position.

                                        If it's component themselves : rotate it outside the component else all other component (mirrored) will rotate also!

                                        Sure I did so. But it is rotation like in y1=60ยฐ; y2=-60ยฐ; x1=13ยฐ; x2=-13ยฐ; and so ... it is mirrored...

                                        So when I started to rotate the arm, so I had to rotate 1st arm and then the 2nd arm. So there is result that they are not same angle. Because I did not check the angle, when I started to do it. Now it looks like it is better then it was before.

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                                          rumcajs
                                          last edited by

                                          I rotated head and removed the sides because they were deformed. I try to close the head now but when I draw the circle so it does not fit. Do you have idea why and what to do with it?


                                          human body - head v6.skp

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                                            rumcajs
                                            last edited by

                                            Or better I should take the ovalish head first and scale it to make rounded head... But how to fix that. Sizes are 0,23x0,21m and I want 0,23x0,23. But with tape I can only change the scale with ratio 1:1...

                                            http://i50.tinypic.com/70c014.png

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