Erases too much of a line...
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Just upgraded from v6Pro to v8Pro (minutes ago). When drawing on my existing files, I am having eraser issues. In some cases erasing a sectionof a straight line erases the entire line rather than back to the nearest intersection. On other drawings, it erases only to the intersection. Why does it behave differently on different drawings? Thanks for any help.
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One guess: Some of your lines may appear to be continuous and straight, but, as you have noticed, pieces erase away. Some of your lines may be single segments. Some of your lines may be curves, which are made up of connected segments, which will erase as a unit.
If you can do so, maybe upload an example model where this occurs.
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@mitcorb said:
maybe upload an example model where this occurs.
I figured it out. Somehow... the lines that erase completely are on a different plane. I determined this by changing the view so that I could see the newly drawn line hovering above the existing image rather than lying on it. Now I gotta figure out what's causing that. (Tried to attach the file. Too large.)
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Hi, ProDrawer:
By your reply, I take it that you work in orthographic views only? The Orbit tool is one of the best things about the Sketchup workspace. It allows you to be very specific where you terminate a line. And the automatic inferencing(snaps) will ensure precision.
Be aware that you can enable, adjust, and disable length snapping and angle snapping for rotation and array copying. The length snapping is like having an invisible grid.EDIT: If I misunderstood, or assumed too much, please ignore this comment.
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@mitcorb said:
Hi, ProDrawer:
By your reply, I take it that you work in orthographic views only? The Orbit tool is one of the best things about the Sketchup workspace. It allows you to be very specific where you terminate a line. And the automatic inferencing(snaps) will ensure precision.
Be aware that you can enable, adjust, and disable length snapping and angle snapping for rotation and array copying. The length snapping is like having an invisible grid.EDIT: If I misunderstood, or assumed too much, please ignore this comment.
You greatly overestimate my expertise. I love SketchUp. But I'm a limited kind of guy. In the years I've been using it, I've probably never progressed beyond what most people learn tinkering around for a week of short sessions. It's a means to an end of building my projects. Sometimes I draw 3D versions so that I can spin a cabinet around and show my wife what it would look like as a real object. Other times I only draw in 2D so that I can make a simple part on my CNC machine. I'm sure there must be a preference that's causing my problem. I just don't know what it is. I'm building new cabinets for our kitchen. On some drawings a long line drawn across a bank of cabinets will "adhere" to the image requiring individual deletions from one intersection to the next. On other images that I've drawn, my horizontal line is actually hovering above the existing object. You can't tell that unless you use the orbit tool to tilt the image. Then it becomes obvious that erasing any part of the line erases it all. What I need to know is how to change the preference on that kind of image so that I'm not drawing above the existing image. I guess it's hard to explain. I wanted to upload the drawing but it's too large. -
@unknownuser said:
@mitcorb said:
Hi, ProDrawer:
By your reply, I take it that you work in orthographic views only? The Orbit tool is one of the best things about the Sketchup workspace. It allows you to be very specific where you terminate a line. And the automatic inferencing(snaps) will ensure precision.
Be aware that you can enable, adjust, and disable length snapping and angle snapping for rotation and array copying. The length snapping is like having an invisible grid.EDIT: If I misunderstood, or assumed too much, please ignore this comment.
Here we go (uploaded image). In the top half of the uploaded pic I have drawn a line across the kitchen wall. Let's pretend that I intend to leave the line and erase everything under it. The image would now show only the top third of the fridge, the microwave, so forth. But, by using the orbit tool, I can see that the line is not really on the kitchen image. It's actually below it. Therefore the existing image was on one plane and the new line is on another plane. When I drew the line I was in "top" view if that helps.
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It looks as if you drew that line on the xy plane, because that is where Sketchup draws by default. But the rest of the stuff is floating at z=? units above the xy plane. If you want it to be on the xy plane, I suggest that you select the kitchen drawing and make it a group or component to isolate it from other stuff and then move it down. To ensure that it lands on the xy, draw a large rectangle, for instance, on xy and move the grouped kitchen down until it rests on the rectangle. You can delete the rectangle if you wish.
If you mean to stand the kitchen up parallel to the xz plane, then you will need to rotate the grouped kitchen on its local axis. You can do this with the Move tool with groups by orbiting near one end of the drawing selecting the group, and pressing the M key or using the Move Icon and then finding the little cross points on the edge. Move becomes Rotate when you hover over these cross points.
I am going on and on, but you should be able to click Help on the top line of the Sketchup interface and find more details and images for any of the operations.
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@mitcorb said:
It looks as if you drew that line on the xy plane, because that is where Sketchup draws by default. But the rest of the stuff is floating at z=? units above the xy plane. If you want it to be on the xy plane, I suggest that you select the kitchen drawing and make it a group or component to isolate it from other stuff and then move it down. To ensure that it lands on the xy, draw a large rectangle, for instance, on xy and move the grouped kitchen down until it rests on the rectangle. You can delete the rectangle if you wish.
If you mean to stand the kitchen up parallel to the xz plane, then you will need to rotate the grouped kitchen on its local axis. You can do this with the Move tool with groups by orbiting near one end of the drawing selecting the group, and pressing the M key or using the Move Icon and then finding the little cross points on the edge. Move becomes Rotate when you hover over these cross points.
I am going on and on, but you should be able to click Help on the top line of the Sketchup interface and find more details and images for any of the operations.
Please let me know if I am explaining appropriately.Okay. Thanks. I think the apparent take-home message here is that I NEVER KNEW until now that I could inadvertently draw an image that would be floating, not anchored to the default axes. I think that's what you're telling me. At least, that's what I'm going to try: moving it to an axis intersection. Thanks much for your time.
Yes. That took care of it. Ask me if I feel stuuuuuupid!
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ProDrawer:
I am only a little bit smarter than a brick
I am glad if I was able to help. There is a wealth of how to information available for becoming fluent in Sketchup. First stop? Click the Help button at the top of your Sketchup Window. YouTube, for instance is chock full of tutorials. Aidan Chopra has a website for teaching. I could go on.
Best of luck to you.
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