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    Curved grip on flintlock pistol stock?

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    • J Offline
      jdadesignstudio
      last edited by

      could you provide a picture of what you are trying to model?

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      • 3 Offline
        3eighty
        last edited by

        The curved handle part..

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        • brookefoxB Offline
          brookefox
          last edited by

          The easy way: pony up for Artisan. I have not.

          The not as easy way: think reductively about the shape. What simple forms that are easily modeled can it be reduced to? Perhaps these can be combined. Or perhaps outlines can be drawn that can be skinned. I think I'd try that. Trace or draw the profile from the view you show and then from a view perpendicular to that (and any others you can, the more the merrier). Then use CurviLoft or one of the other amazing free plugins to 'skin it'. If you generate the profiles, you'll have a good start, I think.

          Of course you will want to have the profile at the top match the profile which it will join.

          ~ Brooke

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          • brookefoxB Offline
            brookefox
            last edited by

            Didn't follow my own advice.

            pistol handle-1.JPG

            It's too flat, needs some inflating. Soap bubble plugin?

            My times up. Added faces with sandbox from scratch but kind of got nowhere... The checkerboard look is not a special grip texture.

            pistol handle-half-2.JPG

            Must learn to listen to myself more closely, or not. I think so in this case --> loft, skin etc.

            ~ Brooke

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              You can also use the Extrude edges by rails by Tig with 3 or 4 curves
              Don't erase curves between each call of it
              grip.jpg

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • brookefoxB Offline
                brookefox
                last edited by

                That's nice, if mysteriously precise. Which half is it?

                OP can see the elegance of your moves.

                This subcontract work times out pretty fast, for some.

                ~ Brooke

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                • pbacotP Offline
                  pbacot
                  last edited by

                  I got the bug to try this. I thought I knew a way but it took me further down the alley of organic modeling than I meant to go. I did try a couple of subdivision and smoothing rubies, not Artisan, but figuring out the proxy seemed harder than what I finally did.

                  Sorry I only took one picture of the process. I used Curviloft along a path (second icon) since I thought this shape is moving through simple cross sections. Then at the butt I guessed that this is the same elliptical shape lathed, so that's what I did with follow-me (perhaps not the best method). It needed a little stitching, and it isn't all neat geometry. I think curviloft is a good choice for this if you are less adept at organic modeling like me. The closest I got otherwise is scaling rings in a tube-- but this was much faster.


                  FLINT MAX 4.png

                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                  • pilouP Offline
                    pilou
                    last edited by

                    @Brooke

                    @unknownuser said:

                    Which half is it?

                    It's nothing special, just conceptual ๐Ÿ˜‰
                    You must have to find some generator's curves in the object that you want to sculpt ๐Ÿค“
                    Extrude Edges by rails and Curviloft are brothers twins friends! โ˜€

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                    • numbthumbN Offline
                      numbthumb
                      last edited by

                      Iยดm sure youยดve sorted this out by now.
                      If it helps, here is a drawing with some cross sections that may come in handy.flintlock gun.JPG

                      Comfortably numb...

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                      • brookefoxB Offline
                        brookefox
                        last edited by

                        @pbacot said:

                        I used Curviloft along a path (second icon) since I thought this shape is moving through simple cross sections. Then at the butt I guessed that this is the same elliptical shape lathed, so that's what I did with follow-me (perhaps not the best method)... I think curviloft is a good choice for this if you are less adept at organic modeling like me.

                        Very fantastic. Really nice. ShowOff

                        But the beautiful walnut is kinda rubbing it in, don't you think? And the brass butt bolster should be finished with 00000 steel wool for that final 'Prell' UltraConditioner look popular in the antique gun re-modellers trade.

                        @unknownuser said:

                        it isn't all neat geometry.

                        Prove it.
                        .
                        Thanks, numbthumb, but Peter has made me very tired. Maybe the OP breathes still.
                        .

                        ~ Brooke

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                        • pilouP Offline
                          pilou
                          last edited by

                          Soap works also in this case ๐Ÿ˜‰
                          Division 20 , Pressure -100 and then you can Scale it if you want
                          soap2.jpg

                          Frenchy Pilou
                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                          My Little site :)

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                            3eighty
                            last edited by

                            Thanks to all of you...

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                            • brookefoxB Offline
                              brookefox
                              last edited by

                              Generally as per Peter, curviloft along path, but with lousy proportions and no artistry.

                              Note the inflated butt, however.

                              Follow me there would have been better: more precise and no tedious cleanup.

                              pistol handle-5.JPG

                              New proportion and butt, but... still.

                              pistol handle-6.JPG

                              ~ Brooke

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                              • pbacotP Offline
                                pbacot
                                last edited by

                                @brookefox said:

                                Very fantastic. Really nice. ShowOff

                                But the beautiful walnut is kinda rubbing it in, don't you think? And the brass butt bolster should be finished with 00000 steel wool for that final 'Prell' UltraConditioner look popular in the antique gun re-modellers trade.

                                @unknownuser said:

                                it isn't all neat geometry.

                                Prove it.
                                .
                                Thanks, numbthumb, but Peter has made me very tired. Maybe the OP breathes still.
                                .

                                Thanks,
                                ๐Ÿ˜† The rubbed lacquer finish is to COVER UP the geometry... For the bolster I just took a color and gave it a metal description and guess what? It came out looking like metal paint. I haven't much background in such texturing.

                                OK so feast your eyes. First mistake: too many segments in rounded corners added unneeded complexity at the other end.
                                Also it was hard to get a nice curve on both top and bottom of the handle and find the right shape. I had to scale and even rotate the main rings after the fact (ouch) to get it in line (or in curve). Brooke yours has a nice even looking mesh. (How does Pilou make his look like it's f'g glowing?)

                                I never thought much of modeling guns but I have to say it gave me an appreciation of the craftsmen who developed these classic shapes. And I gained additional respect for the work of organic modelers we see here and awe for the ruby masters.


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                                • brookefoxB Offline
                                  brookefox
                                  last edited by

                                  Yeah, yeah.

                                  I gotta nominate to the "'Help Me Model' Hall of Fame" to be opened in a Gallery near you.

                                  ~ Brooke

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                                  • pilouP Offline
                                    pilou
                                    last edited by

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    (How does Pilou make his look like it's f'g glowing?)

                                    Very easy ๐Ÿ’š
                                    Key Print Screen of the normal SU Canvas and past it in any 2D prog
                                    Inverse colors
                                    Some colors variations
                                    That's all! (5 seconds made) ๐Ÿ˜Ž

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                    • pbacotP Offline
                                      pbacot
                                      last edited by

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      (How does Pilou make his look like it's f'g glowing?)

                                      Very easy ๐Ÿ’š
                                      Key Print Screen of the normal SU Canvas and past it in any 2D prog
                                      Inverse colors
                                      Some colors variations
                                      That's all! (5 seconds made) ๐Ÿ˜Ž

                                      Merci beaucoup, Speedy.

                                      Le P Bacot


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