The accuracy in sketch up
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Good morning every one
as a newbie I came out with some critical questions
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after making change in 3d! do you go back to autocad and make changes in plan?
an archicad user make fun with me LOL! he said when he make changes in plan the 3d change authomatically
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imagine I draw the roof, then I want to overhang it for more 600 mm, I tried to use the scale but it was a wrong decision what do you do?
again the archicad user laughed!!!
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pls help I wana to show off in front of him
thank you for ur support friends
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I have moved to SU Pro from ArchiCAD! ArchiCAD is a powerful piece of software and so it should be for the price, but SU is quite capable of competing in its own way depending on the work you are doing and how far along the learning curve you have travelled. The graphic results may not be as slick with all the automated hatching in AC but at the end of the day you just need to convey sufficient information for the builder to do his job.
If you want to show up AC, ask it to produce a simple 3D shape with bits cut out and others stuck on then freely move the object in 3D, you will find AC struggles to copy what you can do very easily in in SU.
SU allows a design to evolve, with AC the process is quite rigid, which is ok if the work you are doing needs that level of pre-defined automation.
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thank you very much for the response friend, I agree sketch up is a very powerful software specially when you are going to come out with a great conceptual design
I personally play with the model in different ways to come out with a good looking modelbut what gives me a hard time is the fact that:
now I have a nice model, the heights of building and the facades looks good
but for having a proper model I need to measure all of dimensions and apply it to the plan again, I also need to go back to my autocad file and update the model
now
isn't there any easier way!
there must be a better way
I remember once I head about the layout in sketch up but I didn't explore it
I prefer to draw the 2d plans in autocad, to me it is very accurate.
the unsolved problem is:
Does the professionals do the same? do they every time which make a little change in the 3d go back to cad file amend it???
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@architectfkh said:
the unsolved problem is:
Does the professionals do the same? do they every time which make a little change in the 3d go back to cad file amend it???
Autocad has no way of knowing what you edited in sketchup.
If you prefer to draw 2D in autocad, then you can do that, then export to sketchup, generate your 3D model, and then export it from sketchup back into autocad. You need to experiment with this a bit to see how layers, etc. are translated between the two programs, but it does work. I think there's some plugins to allow the import/export of DWG with the free version of sketchup, but if these aren't available then you need Sketchup Pro, which also comes with Layout.
Layout will allow you to display your model in a variety of paperspace views and add annotation such as dimensions, etc. There's a number of youtube videos on Layout that are worth watching. As you're probably aware, sketchup can be a very powerful tool, and layout provides just enough tools to give a reasonable paper output. Sketchup can be very precise as well, so there's no reason you can't do all the drawing in sketchup.
Good luck with it
- Mick
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Layout will allow you to display your model in a variety of paperspace views and add annotation such as dimensions, etc. There's a number of youtube videos on Layout that are worth watching. As you're probably aware, sketchup can be a very powerful tool, and layout provides just enough tools to give a reasonable paper output. Sketchup can be very precise as well, so there's no reason you can't do all the drawing in sketchup.
thank you very much Mick, then if I try to learn using layout, does it mean that when I use layout and for example make a room bigger in the plan, it affects the 3D model? I mean it automatically update the 3D?
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Layout (LO) is used to display "Scenes" that you create in SU. When you change the model in SU e.g. make a room bigger then when you update the link to the SU model in LO the linked "Scenes" (paperspace/viewport) will update with the latest saved verion of the model so all your views can be updated together. No more forgetting to move the window on the elevation!
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Hi,
If you wish to see how SU and LO are used in working drawings, study this thread:http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=15911 Not all people do this however. There are many different workflows.
I, for one, am happy using my 2d CAD for working drawings and only using SU for visualization (some of which ends up in the working drawings too.) I am interested in the work of people who have moved totally to SU and LO for production, and in the BIM development, but I am not "there" yet myself.
I do most layout of design in 2d. Then model in SU. (though sometimes I do the reverse). They are unrelated except that I export images and dwg both ways for various uses.
ArchiCAD, Revit and others are BIM examples. They integrate models and orthographic drawings. Look at this thread (and others) to see how people are trying to create a BIM interface within SU. It's a "WIP":http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=35798&start=0
But otherwise you are not going to impress people comparing SU to BIM.
I think Kris is right, look at Instant Roof Plugin by ValiArchitects. Anyway if you wish to extend an eave, you need to use the tape measure tool to make a guideline then extend the eave by moving the edges in the plane of the roof surface OR if your fascia is perpendicular to that surface Push-Pull may work. There are many ways to approach this. Personally I like to draw the roof plane out to where it should be before adding thickness and detail. Or I might use follow-me to add the whole overhang, gutter etc. from a profile.
I believe I've seen some of your work and you are off to a good start. There is a lot to do in basic SU modelling besides integrating with CAD or BIM. In fact Kris had a great tutorial here called "how a professional designs a house in SU" or something, but I can't find it anymore...
Peter
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I'm working at the moment on some very small components and...yes sketchup is not accurate. When I draw some lines, sketchup grabs the lines from different lines,changes lengths,creates some other lines, hides lines.. as it's no able to work with small faces.
Beside that, orbiting or zooming in in small components it's a pain- the clipping/ disappearing objects issue makes i even harder .
Edited :
Sorry guys !
There was a similar thread about accuracy , and i haven't read all the posts above. My post wasn't meant for this thread !
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