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    [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

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    • fredo6F Offline
      fredo6
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      @rv1974 said:

      Yes I mean 'force triangulation' option (I hope we are talking about the same things ๐Ÿ˜„
      You see, if I'd export some perverted mesh (with QuadMesh UV applied) as foreign format (3ds, fbx, obj etc) I'd get tons of independent 'materials'- (one mat for every single face). The only wayI know to avoid this plague is triangulation. TT's Triangulate command works perfectly,
      The only inconvenience it's an extra procedure. Simultaneous painting + triangulation would be just perfect.

      OK. But then, why don't you do the triangulation once, and then call ThruPaint after.

      My problem is more to see how to fit the option in an already crowded GUI, and also keeping ThruPaint doing what it is paid for, that is, apply colors and textures, not alter the geometry.

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        rv1974
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        Quite often I have to deal with truly complex files (say +100k objects, +1.5M faces).
        It's simply inevitable to skip some objects (that must be triangulated).
        For instance, Profile Builder allows instant multiple paths profile creation. I suggested Whaat to add 'triangulate upon creation' option But it wasn't addressed unfortunately. And then when the moment of export comes... Houston we have a problem ๐Ÿ˜ฒ
        Anyways.. I don't think one tiny 3x3mm ฮ” button will mess up the palette. Per contra, the benefit would be inexpressible.

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          Bandika
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          My favourite tool! Though now I have problems in SU2019.
          A tiny little surface, such as a chair seat lasted 1,5 hour to paint. Earlier it was cca. 5 seconds.
          Every little surface is 1 hour to do.

          What could happen? I am going crazy...

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          • fredo6F Offline
            fredo6
            last edited by

            @bandika said:

            My favourite tool! Though now I have problems in SU2019.
            A tiny little surface, such as a chair seat lasted 1,5 hour to paint. Earlier it was cca. 5 seconds.
            Every little surface is 1 hour to do.

            That's not normal.
            Could you post or PM me the model.

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              Bandika
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              Dear Fredo!

              It just has recovered!!! I deleted then istalled again the extension, and now it is working as fine as before!!! Maybe it got scared from you:)
              Big thanks!

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              • fredo6F Offline
                fredo6
                last edited by

                Good to hear.

                Still, I wonder what was creating the performance problem...

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                  Bandika
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                  Me too. Strange, that it did not freeze, it worked, finally it made it - just in one and a half ours. I worked in two files that time, it was exactly the same. I am happy now that it works again:)

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                    rv1974
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                    Fredo, is it possible to add ability to assign (globally ) front face materials to corresponding back faces AND preserve front faces texture coordinates?

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                    • fredo6F Offline
                      fredo6
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                      @rv1974 said:

                      Fredo, is it possible to add ability to assign (globally ) front face materials to corresponding back faces AND preserve front faces texture coordinates?

                      In principle, the UV are mirrored on the backface.

                      Can you first try FredoTool:ReverseOrientFace to see if this does the job with the good mirroring on the back face.

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                        rv1974
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                        @unknownuser said:

                        In principle, the UV are mirrored on the backface.

                        Can you first try FredoTool:ReverseOrientFace to see if this does the job with the good mirroring on the back face

                        In my tests your ReverseOrientFace is completely OK on transferring UV's when flipping.
                        Does it mean you potentially could add my request to ThruPaint or ReverseOrientFace?
                        Off-topic Minor issue: In ReverseOrientFace I can't make make tooltips work (they are enabled and SU restarted)

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                        • fredo6F Offline
                          fredo6
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                          Just to be sure, you want a very unusual behavior, which is that the UV on the other side of the face are different.

                          In Sketchup, ThruPaint, etc... the flipping of faces or the painting on both sides of a face keeps the UV identical (so that if the material is transparent, you see only one texture).

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                            rv1974
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                            In simple words I need singe click solution that'd take everything I see on front and apply in exact manner to the back (no matter what happens currently on the back, it will be replaced with front textures).
                            Theoretically ThruPaint is good if you'd start from the scratch and use TruPaint exclusively all the way.

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                            • fredo6F Offline
                              fredo6
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                              Do you have an example. I am still not sure of what you want.

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                                rv1974
                                last edited by

                                The same components with the same material applied, but with randomized UV's..
                                Is it theoretically possible in current SU? Maybe some trick thru dynamic components?

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                                • fredo6F Offline
                                  fredo6
                                  last edited by

                                  @rv1974 said:

                                  The same components with the same material applied, but with randomized UV's..
                                  Is it theoretically possible in current SU? Maybe some trick thru dynamic components?

                                  Still not clear...
                                  Component instances behave the same when you paint their elements. And there is no control of UV when you paint their instances.

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                                  • summerson1990S Offline
                                    summerson1990
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                                    Why is there a limit for only 5000 faces interactively refreshed while manipulating with the texture? Sometimes it's not possible to see interactive results on high poly meshes.


                                    Screenshot_19.png


                                    Here is a GIF as an example

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                                    • fredo6F Offline
                                      fredo6
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                                      I could increase the limit, as apparently machines become more powerful.

                                      Still, what it means that you can preview the 5000 faces around the face where you manipulate the gizmo. So It should be sufficient to see what is going on.

                                      Fredo

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                                        summerson1990
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                                        @fredo6 said:

                                        I could increase the limit, as apparently machines become more powerful.

                                        Still, what it means that you can preview the 5000 faces around the face where you manipulate the gizmo. So It should be sufficient to see what is going on.

                                        Fredo

                                        I think my GIF screen record above shows that in some cases it's not so comfortable to see what is going on when we've got a highpoly surface. Did you see it? Of course I can make a position of texture I need in other ways. But I was just interested about why did you do such a limitation and ask if it's ok if you could allow us to increase this value.

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                                        • fredo6F Offline
                                          fredo6
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                                          @summerson1990 said:

                                          But I was just interested about why did you do such a limitation and ask if it's ok if you could allow us to increase this value.

                                          As you show in the GIF video, the interactivity of the transformation is slowed down when you use a high number of faces.
                                          It's OK for increasing the number, but you may then suffer from a lag as you play with the gizmo.

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                                            goldviper
                                            last edited by

                                            Please help
                                            How can i enable nodes for non uniform scale
                                            my Thrupaint only has pink node for uniform scale?

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