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    • KrisidiousK Offline
      Krisidious
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      I thought you might be modding this game, like I am...

      By: Kristoff Rand
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      • GaieusG Offline
        Gaieus
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        @lecra said:

        I'm there now. The problem that I see now is the rounded shoulder of the tire. Is there a way to make this edge after have textured them a bit rounder?

        I can't really see where the problem exactly is. Can you attach the wheel (model) itself, too?

        Gai...

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          lecra
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          Gaieus,

          @gaieus said:

          @lecra said:

          I'm there now. The problem that I see now is the rounded shoulder of the tire. Is there a way to make this edge after have textured them a bit rounder?

          I can't really see where the problem exactly is. Can you attach the wheel (model) itself, too?

          Look at the edges of the tire. I don't know how to round the the edge so that the tire looks realistic and not in the shape of a square (at the end of the texture on the right and left side)!

          Below the attached file:
          LecraTyre_2.skp

          Many thanks for your help Gaieus. Much appreciated.

          KR; Lecra

          I'm new to SU but so thirstily to learn all the stuff. Help me fighting against my thirst

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          • GaieusG Offline
            Gaieus
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            Something like this?


            LecraTyre_2.skp

            Gai...

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            • gillesG Offline
              gilles
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              Have a look at this if it can help.
              step by step.


              LecraTyre.skp

              " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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              • L Offline
                lecra
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                Gaieus,

                @gaieus said:

                Something like this?

                Exactly that! Tell me!

                KR; Lecra

                I'm new to SU but so thirstily to learn all the stuff. Help me fighting against my thirst

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
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                  Well, here are some steps (it could have been done differently, too - but this was the easiest from an already existing shape you made). The plugin I used can be downloaded here (note that some additional plugin is also needed and read the instructions carefully).

                  This is the weakest part of SketchUp and if you want to nicely position some texture on a more complex, curved shape than a simple cylinder, you really need plugins.


                  1.png


                  2.png


                  3.png


                  4.png


                  5.png


                  6.png

                  Gai...

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                    lecra
                    last edited by

                    Gaieus,

                    @gaieus said:

                    Well, here are some steps (it could have been done differently, too - but this was the easiest from an already existing shape you made). The plugin I used can be downloaded here (note that some additional plugin is also needed and read the instructions carefully).

                    This is the weakest part of SketchUp and if you want to nicely position some texture on a more complex, curved shape than a simple cylinder, you really need plugins.

                    Damn! I expected there was a plugin in the game! 😮 But I had to sweat some liter, what?

                    In order to draw the 4 edges you have drawn, do I need another plugin?
                    1.png

                    Many thanks for the hints until now Gaieus!

                    KR; Lecra

                    I'm new to SU but so thirstily to learn all the stuff. Help me fighting against my thirst

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                    • L Offline
                      lecra
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                      Gaieus,

                      @gaieus said:

                      In order to draw the 4 edges you have drawn, do I need another plugin?
                      [attachment=0:1e0zy92x]<!-- ia0 -->1.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1e0zy92x]

                      Many thanks for the hints until now Gaieus!

                      Ups. I think I got it. Select the edge and choose the move tool, hit ctrl copy and move the edge. Right?

                      KR; Lecra

                      I'm new to SU but so thirstily to learn all the stuff. Help me fighting against my thirst

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                        lecra
                        last edited by

                        Gilles,

                        @gilles said:

                        Have a look at this if it can help.
                        step by step.

                        Merci beaucoup! It's also a way but I have issue with the other side. The right side is not parallel to the left one. Maybe due to the texture.

                        KR; Lecra

                        I'm new to SU but so thirstily to learn all the stuff. Help me fighting against my thirst

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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
                          last edited by

                          @lecra said:

                          Ups. I think I got it. Select the edge and choose the move tool, hit ctrl copy and move the edge. Right?

                          Exactly.

                          @lecra said:

                          Damn! I expected there was a plugin in the game! But I had to sweat some liter, what?

                          Well, one really has to learn the basic tools first. In 90% of the cases, the simplest SU tools are enough - and even faster than tinkering with plugins.

                          You could have started with this plugin (to simply map your tyre cylindrically):
                          http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=10404
                          or unwrap and texture nicely with this one:
                          http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=39442
                          or here is a very complex one that can do so many other things, too:
                          http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=36051
                          (there is a free version...)

                          Gai...

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                          • L Offline
                            lecra
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                            @Gaieus,

                            Many thanks for your support and tutorial. It works like a charme....

                            Below you can see the results. I'm no looking for tire treads images for agricultural (farm) vehicles.

                            LecraTire _1.jpg

                            LecraTire _2.jpg

                            Thanks again. Great help.

                            KR; Lecra

                            I'm new to SU but so thirstily to learn all the stuff. Help me fighting against my thirst

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                              driven
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                              Looks good, how big/small is your skp now?
                              john

                              learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                lecra
                                last edited by

                                Hi driven,

                                @driven said:

                                Looks good, how big/small is your skp now?
                                john

                                Exactly 504 Kb small/big 😄

                                KR; Lecra

                                I'm new to SU but so thirstily to learn all the stuff. Help me fighting against my thirst

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                                • GaieusG Offline
                                  Gaieus
                                  last edited by

                                  Good. What are you rendering it with? It looks like Kerkythea. IMO a little (bit more enhanced?) bumpiness would add to it. Of course, eventually there needs to be some environment or a render to look good (even for the reflections as there needs to be something reflected of course)

                                  Gai...

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                                  • GaieusG Offline
                                    Gaieus
                                    last edited by

                                    Good. What are you rendering it with? It looks like Kerkythea. IMO a little (bit more enhanced?) bumpiness would add to it. Of course, eventually there needs to be some environment for a render to look good (even for the reflections as there needs to be something reflected...)


                                    tyre.jpg

                                    Gai...

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                                    • simon le bonS Offline
                                      simon le bon
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi,
                                      Definitely a useful thread with great tips and tricks 👍 😉

                                      @gaieus said:

                                      Good. What are you rendering it with? It looks like Kerkythea. IMO a little (bit more enhanced?) bumpiness would add to it. Of course, eventually there needs to be some environment for a render to look good (even for the reflections as there needs to be something reflected...)

                                      my quote:
                                      This tutorial Making Bump Maps in SKP from CanonFodder000 on Deviant Art

                                      http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/248/e/9/making_bump_maps_in_skp_by_canonfodder000-d2y3poi.png

                                      simon

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                                        lecra
                                        last edited by

                                        Gaieus,

                                        @gaieus said:

                                        Good. What are you rendering it with? It looks like Kerkythea.

                                        Nope, Twilight. I have to admit, I was just rendering this image with the default settings. I have absolute no experience with rendering. I try to follow your suggestion learning first dominating SU and then to enter in the big world of rendering. I have to admit, that waiting would make me nervous but in my old age I have to be patient as I cannot learn so fast anymore! 🤣

                                        KR; Lecra

                                        I'm new to SU but so thirstily to learn all the stuff. Help me fighting against my thirst

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                                        • L Offline
                                          lecra
                                          last edited by

                                          Gaieus,

                                          Unfortunately I encountered another challenge with my tires! This kind of tires is slightly curved on his tread as well as the sidewall. This means a lot more of hidden geometry 😳
                                          In order to understand how I did this tire: I draw the profile with the arc tool and lines, then revolved with the follow-me tool.

                                          FlotationTire.jpg

                                          I really don't know how to apply the tread texture as well as the sidewall texture to the tire. I suppose that you will again 'do party pieces' taking out one of those wonderful plug-ins 😆
                                          Attached my SU file:

                                          FlotationTire.skp

                                          Any suggestions how to overcome my problem?

                                          Many thanks in advance for your great support.

                                          KR; Lecra

                                          I'm new to SU but so thirstily to learn all the stuff. Help me fighting against my thirst

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                                          • Alan FraserA Offline
                                            Alan Fraser
                                            last edited by

                                            Unfortunately, you can't use the method I described for mapping onto a rounded face like that. It will only work on a flat cylindrical face. Even in my example, the shoulders of the tread are not correctly mapped, because they are sloping. Fortunately, they are fairly thin, so you don't really notice. If you round the whole face of the tread, the whole system goes out the window.

                                            You'd need to use some other more sophisticated mapping software, like Ultimate Unwrap 3D, or perhaps try Thomthom's Quadface Tools plugin.

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