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    Component's Axis, Gluing and Cut Opening

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    • pbacotP Offline
      pbacot
      last edited by

      Hi,

      One thing: other faces or edges (like those in components) will interfere with gluing on a face. In your case you may have to place the upper units on the wall face in a clear area, then move them into position above the lower units. If you have enough of these windows, why not make components with both window and vent units already in them? I don't have an idea on the other problems. You might post the file with the components for others to see the issue.

      @unknownuser said:

      it gives me that yellow notification saying something like "you cannot place component here"

      Could it be that the component gluing is not set to "vertical". Check in the component window under "edit"

      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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      • gillesG Offline
        gilles
        last edited by

        You could do three components:
        window
        vent
        window + vent.

        " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
          last edited by

          It seems that the axes (gluing plane) of that vertical vent is set wrong. Could you share that piece only?

          Gai...

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          • irwanwrI Offline
            irwanwr
            last edited by

            hi everyone,

            here are skp files of those components attached.


            Vent Dinding V.skp


            Vent Jendela.skp


            Vent Pintu.skp

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            • irwanwrI Offline
              irwanwr
              last edited by

              hi pbacot,

              thank you for replying. i have another image here to show you why they make vent and window in separate entities.

              the vent may be placed in the wall without window sometimes. if the wall might be also be the wall of the neighboring house.

              Vent Wind Door.png

              the wall on the rear part of the house might probably become the other house wall next door.

              i'll check the setting soon. thank you very much, pbacot.

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              • irwanwrI Offline
                irwanwr
                last edited by

                hi everyone,

                here's another attempt to make a component that would cut opening on a "wall".
                though it wasn't a successful one.
                the gluing part works quite well. after i read what Dave R said in window components cut opening. i got the idea of the axes placement with the skp Dave R provided there. but, the cut opening cut everything on it's way on the other wall side.

                Comp Cut Opening.png
                i gave it another try but with different thickness. and it still gives the same result on the other side of the wall.

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                • irwanwrI Offline
                  irwanwr
                  last edited by

                  @gilles said:

                  You could do three components:
                  window
                  vent
                  window + vent.

                  ah yes i can see what you meant now πŸ˜„
                  πŸ‘ thank you pbacot.

                  PS: the door and window were from a tutorial blog, SketchUp Tutor
                  downloadable from Quicky Components Part One
                  they were made or designed according to local common rules of measurement or scale.

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                  • GaieusG Offline
                    Gaieus
                    last edited by

                    Well, this is an "oldie" but I see you are in the topic right now:
                    http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=744&p=4261

                    Also always be careful where you place a gluing component. It behaves differently on back faces and front faces.

                    Gai...

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                    • irwanwrI Offline
                      irwanwr
                      last edited by

                      thank you Gaieus

                      for time being, i am using push-pull on a rectangle (bound to the window size) to cut the wall.

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                      • T Offline
                        tspco
                        last edited by

                        I had the same issue when I started using SU, now I just cut the holes then make the windows/doors to fit. It saves a lot of grief

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                        • irwanwrI Offline
                          irwanwr
                          last edited by

                          @tspco said:

                          I had the same issue when I started using SU, now I just cut the holes then make the windows/doors to fit. It saves a lot of grief

                          well, yes. i agree.
                          Gaieus once told me to "always learn to walk before you run"
                          so, the first thing came up in my mind was trying to get the conventional way using native tools available in SketchUp.
                          after the component was made with the right setting of axes and gluing, i put the component on the wall. and when it did work just fine i draw rectangle (in this case is a window).
                          then i push pull the area bound to the rectangle on the wall surface. push-pull it through the other side of the wall. voila, a perfect shaped wall through for the window.
                          actually, that is what i've been doing since SU 6 though πŸ˜›

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                          • GaieusG Offline
                            Gaieus
                            last edited by

                            Many times it is sufficient and often, with too complex window components, I do the same. There is one drawback: you cannot easily move these windows once you decide they should be elsewhere. You can - just not as easily as if everything (including the opening) were part of the component.

                            Then there are also advantages: you can seamlessly position the texture in the opening according to the texture around the opening for instance.

                            Gai...

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                            • irwanwrI Offline
                              irwanwr
                              last edited by

                              hi Gaieus,

                              i've just found your tutorial skp in the warehouse few minutes ago.
                              here Thick Wall Windows

                              i had gave it a thought yesterday, but didn't go for it. cause i thought it would be a "put-explode-erase" steps for the component. since we still cannot move them in one, but in two entities of components. i'll give it another thought anyway.

                              thank you Gaieus and everyone.

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                              • irwanwrI Offline
                                irwanwr
                                last edited by

                                before i forgot,
                                i'd like to post and note these links provided by Dave R.
                                about Axis and Gluing mostly, at least for my own note.
                                or, if by any chance someone else got this post by accident.

                                Component Insertion
                                Exchanging Components

                                (i might find it easier to search in my own post later. Cut Opening on the other hand would probably just a matter of clicking on the checkbox)

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