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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
      last edited by

      It seems that the axes (gluing plane) of that vertical vent is set wrong. Could you share that piece only?

      Gai...

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      • irwanwrI Offline
        irwanwr
        last edited by

        hi everyone,

        here are skp files of those components attached.


        Vent Dinding V.skp


        Vent Jendela.skp


        Vent Pintu.skp

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        • irwanwrI Offline
          irwanwr
          last edited by

          hi pbacot,

          thank you for replying. i have another image here to show you why they make vent and window in separate entities.

          the vent may be placed in the wall without window sometimes. if the wall might be also be the wall of the neighboring house.

          Vent Wind Door.png

          the wall on the rear part of the house might probably become the other house wall next door.

          i'll check the setting soon. thank you very much, pbacot.

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          • irwanwrI Offline
            irwanwr
            last edited by

            hi everyone,

            here's another attempt to make a component that would cut opening on a "wall".
            though it wasn't a successful one.
            the gluing part works quite well. after i read what Dave R said in window components cut opening. i got the idea of the axes placement with the skp Dave R provided there. but, the cut opening cut everything on it's way on the other wall side.

            Comp Cut Opening.png
            i gave it another try but with different thickness. and it still gives the same result on the other side of the wall.

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            • irwanwrI Offline
              irwanwr
              last edited by

              @gilles said:

              You could do three components:
              window
              vent
              window + vent.

              ah yes i can see what you meant now πŸ˜„
              πŸ‘ thank you pbacot.

              PS: the door and window were from a tutorial blog, SketchUp Tutor
              downloadable from Quicky Components Part One
              they were made or designed according to local common rules of measurement or scale.

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
                last edited by

                Well, this is an "oldie" but I see you are in the topic right now:
                http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=744&p=4261

                Also always be careful where you place a gluing component. It behaves differently on back faces and front faces.

                Gai...

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                • irwanwrI Offline
                  irwanwr
                  last edited by

                  thank you Gaieus

                  for time being, i am using push-pull on a rectangle (bound to the window size) to cut the wall.

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                  • T Offline
                    tspco
                    last edited by

                    I had the same issue when I started using SU, now I just cut the holes then make the windows/doors to fit. It saves a lot of grief

                    SU make 2017, /Twilight Render Hobby
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                    • irwanwrI Offline
                      irwanwr
                      last edited by

                      @tspco said:

                      I had the same issue when I started using SU, now I just cut the holes then make the windows/doors to fit. It saves a lot of grief

                      well, yes. i agree.
                      Gaieus once told me to "always learn to walk before you run"
                      so, the first thing came up in my mind was trying to get the conventional way using native tools available in SketchUp.
                      after the component was made with the right setting of axes and gluing, i put the component on the wall. and when it did work just fine i draw rectangle (in this case is a window).
                      then i push pull the area bound to the rectangle on the wall surface. push-pull it through the other side of the wall. voila, a perfect shaped wall through for the window.
                      actually, that is what i've been doing since SU 6 though πŸ˜›

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by

                        Many times it is sufficient and often, with too complex window components, I do the same. There is one drawback: you cannot easily move these windows once you decide they should be elsewhere. You can - just not as easily as if everything (including the opening) were part of the component.

                        Then there are also advantages: you can seamlessly position the texture in the opening according to the texture around the opening for instance.

                        Gai...

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                        • irwanwrI Offline
                          irwanwr
                          last edited by

                          hi Gaieus,

                          i've just found your tutorial skp in the warehouse few minutes ago.
                          here Thick Wall Windows

                          i had gave it a thought yesterday, but didn't go for it. cause i thought it would be a "put-explode-erase" steps for the component. since we still cannot move them in one, but in two entities of components. i'll give it another thought anyway.

                          thank you Gaieus and everyone.

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                          • irwanwrI Offline
                            irwanwr
                            last edited by

                            before i forgot,
                            i'd like to post and note these links provided by Dave R.
                            about Axis and Gluing mostly, at least for my own note.
                            or, if by any chance someone else got this post by accident.

                            Component Insertion
                            Exchanging Components

                            (i might find it easier to search in my own post later. Cut Opening on the other hand would probably just a matter of clicking on the checkbox)

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