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    • irwanwrI Offline
      irwanwr
      last edited by

      I am new in this community forum.
      I'd like to ask about how to make a square carnival tent.
      With square base and pole. Almost look like a pyramid, with slope in the middle.
      I found a model in 3D warehouse. But it has round top on it. More like a cone.

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      • mitcorbM Offline
        mitcorb
        last edited by

        Hi, irwanwr:
        Are you asking how to make a top with concave curvature on a square base? That curve would have "catenary" characteristics. First thought:
        Make a cubic base. Make a circle near the peak. Make a profile from one of the corners to one of the vertices on the circle. The profile would be shaped like a lemon slice, with a chord and an arc. Use Follow Me. I have not done this, yet, so it may not work perfectly.
        Alternatively, you may need to look at some plugins. Perhaps Fredo6's Curviloft.

        Edit: Since you posted in the Newbie forum, I am going to recommend that you try it with basic Sketchup tools to better understand the program before using a plugin.

        I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
          last edited by

          Would it be something like this? (Details and fancy shapes can be added)


          carnival.png


          carnival.skp

          Gai...

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          • Alan FraserA Offline
            Alan Fraser
            last edited by

            Taking Gaius' advice and walking before you can run (ie just using native SU tools...no Ruby Scripts...you learn faster that way) you can produce something like this by following the sequence of scenes in the attached file.

            The sequence actually shows how to make a square tent, not a round one...but the sequence is exactly the same.


            tent_thumb.jpg


            tent.skp

            3D Figures
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            You could be entitled to compensation. Call the Pro Claimers now!

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            • david_hD Offline
              david_h
              last edited by

              I made a quickie. I made 1 side of the roof using TIGs Extrusion by Loft tool. And then just did rotate array to do the other 3 sides. Probably a million ways to do this. Good luck.


              square tent.skp


              tent.png

              If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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              • charly2008C Offline
                charly2008
                last edited by

                Hi,

                as David correctly said there are thousand paths. Here with the standard tool "Follow Me".

                Charly


                2011-11-28_161042.jpg


                2011-11-28_174223.jpg

                He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                • david_hD Offline
                  david_h
                  last edited by

                  Wow. . .the follow me tool! Who'da thought?

                  Here's a D'uh Moment! ๐Ÿ’š

                  If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                  • irwanwrI Offline
                    irwanwr
                    last edited by

                    thank you all for those quick responses ๐Ÿ˜„ i am sorry i just got online tonight though.
                    i did looking for suitable tools. tried Extrude Tools too, each one of them and not succesful ๐Ÿ˜
                    when i saw the Beta Curvy Loft post and see that skinning โ˜€ , i thought i'd give it another try and it works. it's a miracle for me.
                    i did make some basic figures for it before i read these replies.
                    just like what Gaieus and especially David_H posted. and exactly like the one charly2008 showed.
                    thank you very much to all.

                    love this community forum ๐Ÿ˜„

                    PS: i've tried Extrude Tools over and again. but i think i still don't understand how it works.
                    Curvy Loft Skinning works fast with only making frame of edges (2 quarter of circles) and a click.

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                    • irwanwrI Offline
                      irwanwr
                      last edited by

                      @unknownuser said:

                      I made a quickie. I made 1 side of the roof using TIGs Extrusion by Loft tool. And then just did rotate array to do the other 3 sides. Probably a million ways to do this. Good luck.

                      i have tried that one too. with no luck. still don't understand how it works. i've read and tried to learn the post on Extrude Tools many times, trying to figure how it works.

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                      • irwanwrI Offline
                        irwanwr
                        last edited by

                        @alan fraser said:

                        The sequence actually shows how to make a square tent, not a round one...but the sequence is exactly the same.

                        i have some questions on the scenes. how to:

                        1. copy the curve?
                        2. "stitch" the nodes?
                        3. copy the 1st face to adjacent sides?
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                        • irwanwrI Offline
                          irwanwr
                          last edited by

                          @unknownuser said:

                          Wow. . .the follow me tool! Who'da thought?

                          Here's a D'uh Moment! ๐Ÿ’š

                          yes, it didn't come across my mind ๐Ÿ˜› especially because the base is square.
                          thank you.

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                          • Jean LemireJ Offline
                            Jean Lemire
                            last edited by

                            Hi folks.

                            See this SU file for ideas.


                            Carnival tent.skp

                            Jean (Johnny) Lemire from Repentigny, Quebec, Canada.

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                            • irwanwrI Offline
                              irwanwr
                              last edited by

                              @jean lemire said:

                              Hi folks.

                              See this SU file for ideas.

                              ๐Ÿ‘ another "follow me". thank you.

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                              • irwanwrI Offline
                                irwanwr
                                last edited by

                                i didn't succeed using follow me tool either.
                                this is what i made using curvy loft.

                                http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk102/irwanwr/SketchUp/CarnivalSquareTent.jpg

                                i don't know how to attach the skp file yet.

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                                • GaieusG Offline
                                  Gaieus
                                  last edited by

                                  You must learn follow me. Always learn to walk before run. The tent looks good however. ๐Ÿ‘

                                  @irwanwr said:

                                  i don't know how to attach the skp file yet.

                                  See below...


                                  attach.png

                                  Gai...

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                                  • irwanwrI Offline
                                    irwanwr
                                    last edited by

                                    @gaieus said:

                                    You must learn follow me. Always learn to walk before run. The tent looks good however. ๐Ÿ‘

                                    thank you. i'll learn the tool again.
                                    actually, in the first place i was looking for a plugin that able to make the physic looks on the tent cover surface. the tent cover should have straight diagonal frame. but the surface in the middle of each side should be a bit lower. i need to learn and practice more sketchup i guess. thank you again Gaieus.


                                    carnival square tent as component

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                                    • Alan FraserA Offline
                                      Alan Fraser
                                      last edited by

                                      Ah! more like a party gazebo. I wouldn't bother making the fabric sag in the middle of the sides (although it would sag in the middle of the roof ridges, as youve already done)...but I would round some of the edges a little. After all, the fabric will roll gently over the poles, not form razor sharp creases.

                                      http://www.formfonts.com/requestFile.php?type=1&id=3731&img=1_gazebo_canvas.jpg

                                      3D Figures
                                      Were you required to walk 500 miles? Were you advised to walk 500 more?
                                      You could be entitled to compensation. Call the Pro Claimers now!

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                                      • irwanwrI Offline
                                        irwanwr
                                        last edited by

                                        @alan fraser said:

                                        Ah! more like a party gazebo. I wouldn't bother making the fabric sag in the middle of the sides (although it would sag in the middle of the roof ridges, as youve already done)...but I would round some of the edges a little. After all, the fabric will roll gently over the poles, not form razor sharp creases.

                                        yes, thank you for reminding me about the round corner ๐Ÿ˜„ nice tent design and image by the way ๐Ÿ‘

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                                        • Jean LemireJ Offline
                                          Jean Lemire
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi Irwan, hi folks.

                                          The Follow me tool needs two things:

                                          1 - A facethat will follow a path.
                                          2 - A paththat the face will follow.

                                          A faceis any closed flat shape delimited by connected edges and is coplanar (of course since it is flat).

                                          A pathis made of any number of connected edges.

                                          Another important thing is that the facemust be perpendicular to the first edge of the path. If the faceis not perpendicular to the first segment of the path, the facewill be projected on a plane perpendicular to the first segment of the path. This will cause a scaling which may prove detrimental to the wanted result.

                                          The Follow me tool works in two ways.

                                          1 - Manual follow

                                          1.1 - Click on the Follow me tool to select it
                                          1.2 - Click on the face.
                                          1.3 - Follow the pathsegment per segment.
                                          1.4 - Click to finish when the face is at the end of the last segment of the path.

                                          2 - Automatic follow

                                          2.1 - Select the whole path. Use whatever selection method you want.
                                          2.2 - Select the Follow me tool. The pathwill get deselected, don't bother.
                                          2.3 - Click once on the face.

                                          This last method is very efficient and super quick to lathean object around a circle, for example.

                                          In the example shown in my previous file, I use the perimeter of the horizontal square as the pathand the vertical shape as a faceand I latheit around the square path.

                                          Don't worry if you select a pathwith a double click on a face enclosed by this path. Only the perimeter will be used by the Follow me tool.

                                          Just ideas.

                                          Jean (Johnny) Lemire from Repentigny, Quebec, Canada.

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                                          • irwanwrI Offline
                                            irwanwr
                                            last edited by

                                            Jean Lemire
                                            thank you, for step by step instruction provided.

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