Anyone using Lumion w/ Sketchup
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Thanks everyone. Sounds like Lumion delivers what it promises. I've been playing a little bit with the free version but my graphics card is horribly underrated for it. Almost to the point of not working, had some pretty severe crashes with it. Not blaming Lumion, I know its the card being pushed to do things it's not suited for.
Thanks to everyone who commented. Great community, great people here.
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@gaieus said:
I can run Lumion without any issues - the only time I ran out of memory was when I tried to import a 40 Mb file. Then broke it down into two and could import flawlessly.
I was able to import 5 very large and complex model into the one Lumion file.
They were a mix of SU and Revit models and file sizes of each varied:
1 - 213mb
2 - 202mb
3 - 200mb
4 - 180mb
5 - 61mbMind you I was unable to run at full resolution and was getting on average 7FPS so very challenging to navigate around.
Never crashed though...I am very interested to see if Lumion 2 comes with a free version to try out.
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This looks FANTASTIC!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoLV8QIm02M
Apart from the relatively high cost ($2000 US for Lumion Ultimate, against $99 for Twilight), I'm 80 percent sold, just from this video.I've been using Twilight for a year and a half with Sketchup. Does a lovely job when combined with my Spacenavigator
and Flightpath, but the thing that makes it literally crawl is TREES! That, and the fact that it sadly does not take advantage of your GPU at all.
I've recently inherited a (ex-Avatar) Quadro FX4600 along with a new(ish) work machine.I think just on the saved waiting time alone it might pay for itself quite quickly.
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This one blew me away..
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@d_say said:
I was able to import 5 very large and complex model into the one Lumion file.
Yes but you also have 64 bit system(s) which can handle much more ram than my 32 bit xp.
@wozabee said:
I've been using Twilight for a year and a half with Sketchup. Does a lovely job when combined with my Spacenavigator
and Flightpath, but the thing that makes it literally crawl is TREES! That, and the fact that it sadly does not take advantage of your GPU at all.I use (and love) Twilight, too. In fact, I produced my first (and so far, I can say only) bearable quality renderings in Twilight. But Lumion (as you say) is for completely different jobs.
As for GPU based rendering: maybe one day Kerkythea (Twilight's back end rendering engine) will be GPU based, too but currently not even Thea is - and Giannis, developer of both renderers will definitely develop Thea first and Kerkythea will only follow development.
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@d_say said:
@gaieus said:
I can run Lumion without any issues - the only time I ran out of memory was when I tried to import a 40 Mb file. Then broke it down
I am very interested to see if Lumion 2 comes with a free version to try out.Lumion 2 Free Edition is scheduled for January 2012, so stay tuned!
Best regards,
Arthur RoodenburgAct-3D B.V. / Lumion
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Thank you very much ArthuR I cant wait for it to be released!
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Hi Arthur,
Just sent off pretty much this same message to Lumion.
...but I'm just too excited about it to wait.
I'm keenly interested in using Lumion for some upcoming projects my work may have in the works soon.I'm currently producing various previsual environment fly-throughs and scene block-outs exclusively using Google Sketchup in combination with Twilight Render (which uses the Kerkythea rendering engine).
Unfortunately, Kerkythea (and therefore Twilight) does NOTcurrently use my GPU - a Quadro FX 4600 - and literally takes forever to render my final runs - especially involving any large quantity of foliage - so, I imagin just the initial savings in waiting time would be worth the initial investment.
Over the last 3 years I have grown VERY adept to navigating environments fluidly with 3Dconnexion's SpaceNavigator in Sketchup. It gives my left hand something to do while adjusting models with the right hand, and Mostly, I forget it's there. Mostly.Does Lumion currently interface with the SpaceNavigator, or have any future plans to?
Will it support stereoscopic output (with the right hardware) at full HD?
Also, having noticed on your promo videos that such things as shore/wave interaction have still quite some way to go, what are your present next goals to see to? (though, I have to say most of the water stuff so far is beautiful).Cheers,
Woz
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@solo said:
This one blew me away..
Very nearly a British understatement
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@gaieus said:
I have Lumion on an XP machine (32 bit with 4Gb ram installed but 32 bit won't use all) and a Geforce 9600 GT with 1Gb ram. I can run Lumion without any issues - the only time I ran out of memory was when I tried to import a 40 Mb file. Then broke it down into two and could import flawlessly.
Not really a gallery stuff but shows the vast amount of vegetation placed in this model:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD1gw6fSWGc
It rendered in HD in a couple of hours.Lumion 2 is around the corner but if you purchase now (more exactly after October 1), you get the upgrade free so no need to wait if you really consider it.
Whose music was used?
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I can no longer remember. I used YT AudioSwap to quickly add something that is more or less as long (and fit my mood when I did it). To me it sounds like it could be maybe Chopin (or any of the Romanticism actually).
This idiot YT does not display what is currently selected for it (or I am just blind).
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Lumion sure looks like a very easy and powerful tool for making videos with atmosphere, volumetrics, vegetation etc.
I think it looks a bit like a game though.What about using a "real" game engine, like the CryEngine?
Has anyone here tried doing that?
http://www.crydev.net/dm_eds/download_detail.php?id=4 is a free download (non-commercial)Here's a very detailed tour through the interiors of Titanic (very jerky camera though.. )
http://wimp.com/titanicrendered/
or at YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/ORMEntertainment#p/u/0/-_IKqjb9TRY -
Just got the OK to purchase Lumion. Going to pick up a GTX560 tonight and get Lumion tomorrow.
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Excellent, see you on the other side.
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@bjornkn said:
I think it looks a bit like a game though.
Because it isalso a game engine driven application http://quest3d.com/
True that it is not photorealistic - but as you say, it gives a lot of wonderful effects and also very easy to use, set up a scene and extremely fast to render from there on.
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Hi Wozabee,
Some people use Lumion with 3DConnection devices. They posted info on the right configuration here http://lumion3d.com/forum/index.php?topic=1033.0
Lumion allows you to create 3D movies, for instance for Youtube3D. Max output resolution is 1080p.We continuously improve water/ocean. The latest improvements included better waves / shore realism. 3rd place of the Lumion Competition shows part of this.
Best regards,
Arthur
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I've found some time to explore Lumion. At first I thought it was too gamer like, and well, it is, but so what. Like Sketchup it isnt about photorealism, its about communication. What I think makes it exceptoinal is that its fast and easy to learn and really adds life to a model. I did two short videos. I used existing Sketchup models of the structures (not the landform)and manipulated the topography in Lumion. Overall I've been very impressed with the software. Its way more stable than I would have thought; I can see it working its way into my workflow. If you interested check out my video.
All comments welcome
Lumion comes with a full dose of 'fun factor'
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Well, I finally got around to trialling Lumion.
Very disappointed. Not in Lumion itself, but what I learned i needed to run it.
My home PC is an intel quad core with Space navigator, lots of ram, and an Nvidia Qudaro FX1700 GPU.
Lumion ran at about 1 frame per...week, would only recognise 2 axis of the navigator (have latest drivers) which, I think conflicted with the mouse badly, as itwould only pan/tilt in very small bits as if it were frustratedly fighting something.Looking at Lumion's minimum specs on their forum referred me to this site: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
which told me my home card had a score of only 437! waaay lower than the 1500 needed for even the simplest stuff.
This also told me why my WORK PC with its Quadro FX 4600 card (about $2000 worth!) was going soooo slow also, with a Passmark score of only 875!!!Wish now I'd just bought a Gforce GTX 580 - with a Passmark of nearly 4000, its only about $500.
Although its going to be hard to convince work to front that cash up just to TRIAL Lumion to see if it benifits - let alone, convincing the MISSUS on my home PC.
I think they really need to explain this issue somewhere more accessible to prospective buyers, rather than buried in their forum.
Rant over.
Cheers,
Woz
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Woz,
It's the shape of things to come unfortunately.
Most render apps will either be GPU or a hybrid of GPU and CPU soon.
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