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    [Plugin] Follow Me Helix (Updated 06-Jan-2012)

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    • sdmitchS Offline
      sdmitch
      last edited by

      JC, I'm sure TIG's EEbyRail would do the job but I'm assuming you don't have that so here is a little something I threw together that will work under the scenario you mentioned where on the radius is changed between runs of Follow Me Helix. In my example I used 30' and 50' for the radii and 1' and 10 degrees for the linear and angular increments.


      Spiral Road


      Add a surface between two helixes created by Follow Me Helix

      Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

      http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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      • mitcorbM Offline
        mitcorb
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        Hi, sdmitch:
        Somehow I missed that you had updated and posted with a [Plugin] heading. Perhaps that version in the [req] thread by solo is older? Anyway, as I mentioned over there, I will download and experiment with the version in the post above. Thank you, once again.
        mitcorb

        I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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        • K Offline
          K-TEE
          last edited by

          It is very good. Thanks.

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          • J Offline
            jdadesignstudio
            last edited by

            Not sure if im missing something obvious, but mine are coming out very choppy...:


            helix test.jpg

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            • sdmitchS Offline
              sdmitch
              last edited by

              @jdadesignstudio said:

              Not sure if im missing something obvious, but mine are coming out very choppy...:

              It is usually a function of the linear increment entered and the length of the segments in the path. The increment entered is to long in comparison with the segments of the path in your case.

              Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

              http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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              • J Offline
                jdadesignstudio
                last edited by

                Hmm...still having issues. Take a look at the images below-the line and arc both had the same parameters plugged into the helix plugin. I also tried changing the number of segments in the arc (to change the length of the segments) anywhere from 2 segments up to 92 segments. It seems where 2 line segments intersect, it creates a crooked piece...Let me know what you think.
                Thanks,
                Jon


                helix test2.jpg


                helix test3.jpg

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                • sdmitchS Offline
                  sdmitch
                  last edited by

                  @jdadesignstudio said:

                  Hmm...still having issues. Take a look at the images below-the line and arc both had the same parameters plugged into the helix plugin. I also tried changing the number of segments in the arc (to change the length of the segments) anywhere from 2 segments up to 92 segments. It seems where 2 line segments intersect, it creates a crooked piece...Let me know what you think.
                  Thanks,
                  Jon

                  Yes that happens because the linear increment starts on one segment and ends on the next one.
                  Again, the linear increment you are using is to long for the curve you are trying to follow. Sometimes the curve and what you want just doesn't work.

                  Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                  http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                  • sdmitchS Offline
                    sdmitch
                    last edited by

                    Jon, After further testing, it looks like my last "improvement" wasn't an improvement at all so I have re-posted the privious version. I haven't been able to eliminate the "kinks" yet but it is still something that I am thinking about and have a few more ideas to try.

                    Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                    http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                    • J Offline
                      jdadesignstudio
                      last edited by

                      @sdmitch said:

                      Jon, After further testing, it looks like my last "improvement" wasn't an improvement at all so I have re-posted the privious version. I haven't been able to eliminate the "kinks" yet but it is still something that I am thinking about and have a few more ideas to try.

                      Sounds good, thanks Sam! Its a really cool plugin, in the past I have used the draw curves plugin for helixes, but this plugin gives you some more control over the helix, in addition to the follow me feature.

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                      • M Offline
                        mattarth
                        last edited by

                        This is great for making a helix, thank you.

                        Does anyone know of a way to make a helix with a radius that is a function of the distance along the original curve? I would like to draw a barrel spring (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=barrel+spring&hl=en) but I don't know how to make it in sketchup. The radius would be something like r=x*(1-x)+1 where x is distance along the curve. Alternatively I could calculate a list of coordinates myself and input them; is there a way to do that in sketchup?

                        Thanks in advance,
                        Matt

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                        • C Offline
                          crazac
                          last edited by

                          Yea, thanks for this, it's an awesome plug.

                          I do have a question tho, I can only seem to make it revolve in one direction. Putting negative numbers in the fields produces the beach ball of death and a force quit. I've also tried adjusting the path direction to no avail. Is there a way to make the helix revolve in the opposite direction?

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                          • sdmitchS Offline
                            sdmitch
                            last edited by

                            No there is currently no way to make it go the other way. I will take a look and see what I can do.

                            Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                            http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                            • mitcorbM Offline
                              mitcorb
                              last edited by

                              In the meantime you could use Flip Along or Mirror.rb?

                              I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                              • soloS Offline
                                solo
                                last edited by

                                I don't see the point to reversing this, it's follow the line right?

                                http://www.solos-art.com

                                If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                • Dave RD Offline
                                  Dave R
                                  last edited by

                                  @mattarth said:

                                  I would like to draw a barrel spring.

                                  Thanks in advance,
                                  Matt

                                  Matt, how accurate does your barrel spring need to be? Would this one play for you?


                                  http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6106/6211771064_a30af04cce.jpg

                                  This was easy enough with Draw Helix and Follow Me. I didn't bother with the ends but they would be trivial, too.

                                  Etaoin Shrdlu

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                                    crazac
                                    last edited by

                                    @sdmitch said:

                                    No there is currently no way to make it go the other way. I will take a look and see what I can do.

                                    Thanks sdmitch, that would be great!. I really appreciate this plugin. I didn't have much hope when i started this project until i found it. 👍

                                    @mitcorb said:

                                    In the meantime you could use Flip Along or Mirror.rb?

                                    mitcorb, thanks for the heads up. The Mirror is handy, but isn't producing the result i'm after. The helix needs to be inverted...

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                                    • sdmitchS Offline
                                      sdmitch
                                      last edited by

                                      In case you missed it, I posted an updated version yesterday that, if negative angular increment is entered, reverses the direction of the helix.

                                      Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                                      http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                                      • C Offline
                                        crazac
                                        last edited by

                                        @sdmitch said:

                                        In case you missed it, I posted an updated version yesterday that, if negative angular increment is entered, reverses the direction of the helix.

                                        AWESOME!, I did miss it, it works great! Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it...

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                                        • M Offline
                                          mattarth
                                          last edited by

                                          @dave r said:

                                          @mattarth said:

                                          I would like to draw a barrel spring.

                                          Thanks in advance,
                                          Matt

                                          Matt, how accurate does your barrel spring need to be? Would this one play for you?


                                          http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6106/6211771064_a30af04cce.jpg

                                          This was easy enough with Draw Helix and Follow Me. I didn't bother with the ends but they would be trivial, too.

                                          This is great, DrawHelix is exactly what I needed to know, thank you.

                                          I've since tried to make it using a spiral road intersected with a barrel shape:

                                          http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6050/6217456920_0416623e75_z_d.jpg

                                          but it wouldn't follow the whole curve, only the upper or lower half (I was getting the "this does not appear to be a valid path" error when I tried to follow the curve as a whole).

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                                          • Dave RD Offline
                                            Dave R
                                            last edited by

                                            Matt, I used Draw helix to draw three different helices. All three have the same pitch. The first was the bottom, straight helix for 5 turns (because that was the default number when the plugin launched) and it got copied up for the top straight section. The second helix tapers from the first helix's radius out to the larger radius. I copied and flipped the copy to make the top taper as well. That one also has 5 turns. Then there's a three-turn straight helix for the center part of the spring.

                                            All these helices are created as groups which I exploded. Then I welded them together to make them easier to select as a path for Follow Me. It's an instant spring but it doesn't take that long to do. I definitely make a component of the spring so I could easily reuse it.

                                            Etaoin Shrdlu

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