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    • daleD Offline
      dale
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      But at last.... The drywallers, (Todd and Tim) are on the roll 👍Screen shot 2011-11-26 at 6.36.45 AM.png
      This is a really small town in the mountains, 2 hours from the nearest major centre, so having a real drywall tradesman like Todd is just pure luck.Screen shot 2011-11-26 at 6.37.39 AM.png
      They are a really heads down, nose to the grindstone team.Screen shot 2011-11-26 at 6.37.09 AM.png

      Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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      • daleD Offline
        dale
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        Meanwhile, upstairs on the main floor Jude and I are laying the stone floor.
        First we prepped the bathroom by laying down a skim coat of concrete to the top of the hydronic pipes, unfortunately I forgot to take a picture of this.
        Then we lay down a rubber shower pan which clamps directly into the drain. WE put a pan throughout the whole room, as we don't want a curb at the shower entrance, just a level walk-in.Screen shot 2011-11-26 at 6.50.15 AM.png
        Then place aluminum expanded metal lath on the pan to help reinforce the mortar.Screen shot 2011-11-26 at 6.50.37 AM.png
        The start the stonework.
        The stone is a silver mica, about 1/2" (1.3 cm) thick. I have already burnt out one diamond blade that I use to cut it because it is so extremely hard. The full floor depth is 2"(5.1 cm)Screen shot 2011-11-26 at 7.01.16 AM.png
        Then when it has set overnight Judy cleans it with muratic acid to get the excess mortar off, and washes it down.Screen shot 2011-11-26 at 7.04.25 AM.png

        Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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        • daleD Offline
          dale
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          The stonework will be in the small guest bath (with the shower), the master ensuite, and the kitchen.
          Each floor has a thermocoupler sensor that connects to a programable thermostat which will allow us to set the temperature of the floor.
          In the areas other than the shower, there is no rubber pan, so the lath is place over the hydronic pipe, and the stones laid directly.Screen shot 2011-11-26 at 7.12.37 AM.png
          Me laying stone.Screen shot 2011-11-26 at 7.14.48 AM.png
          And if I go out to make another mix of mortar, Judy just keeps going.Screen shot 2011-11-26 at 7.17.31 AM.png
          Each of the bathrooms took a full day, with cleaning the next morning, and the kitchen will take about 3 days.Screen shot 2011-11-26 at 7.15.44 AM.png
          So it's back to work on the kitchen.
          Cheers
          (Oh and yes that is a laundry chute in the top right of the last photo)

          Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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          • simon le bonS Offline
            simon le bon
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            Dear Dale and Judy,

            Things are really going on!!
            Each step is carried out with great attention to detail, in a spirit of perfection. It's so pleasant to watch 👍 👍
            I continue to be amazed by all the techniques that you implement..
            -I didnd't know we could revive the stones with Muriatic acid (Historically called muriatic acid, and spirits of salt, hydrochloric acid was produced from vitriol (sulfuric acid) and common salt. The earliest suggested discovery of hydrochloric acid is attributed to the alchemist Jabir ibn Hayyan (c. 800 AD).

            • "we lay down a rubber shower pan which clamps directly into the drain." 👍 👍
            • "Then place aluminum expanded metal lath on the pan to help reinforce the mortar." 👍 👍
            • "Each floor has a thermocoupler sensor that connects to a programable thermostat which will allow us to set the temperature of the floor." 😉 nice..
            • "(Oh and yes that is a laundry chute in the top right of the last photo)" that is top 👍 😎

            Oh! and now that's it: The cold is arrived ❗ ❗ ❗

            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/thScreenshot2011-11-26at63256AM.jpg

            Have you win the race, or does some works are lost under snow for this season?

            Cheers,
            Simon.

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            • daleD Offline
              dale
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              Hey Simon
              Fickle weather here.
              Last week we dipped to minus -19(C), yesterday was +6 (C) and rained a lot of the snow away, and the went to below 0, and snowed like crazy.
              But winter can be sooo beautiful.Screen shot 2011-11-28 at 6.12.17 AM.png
              I will still do some exterior work, even in the cold, but we plan on a mixed set of siding which will include stone and stucco, so that will not be until spring.
              By the way I really appreciate all the links you post that take me on interesting paths, and a real vote of thanks to your Great Grandfather. Structural concrete has allowed some of the great beauties of architecture to be built, and I'm sure in his time it was scoffed at by the Status Quo.

              Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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              • simon le bonS Offline
                simon le bon
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                @unknownuser said:

                By the way I really appreciate all the links you post that take me on interesting paths, and a real vote of thanks to your Great Grandfather

                Dear Dale, I'm so pleased you appreciate (and sorry for bumping this way your thread). Searching to find more in order to give some powder to this reply, I have found very interesting things (and especially a book written by my great grandfather which I didn't know). I have found also that the real big men around reinforced concrete at this time were Eugène Freyssinet and Albert Caquot. So would you please let me bump a little more and for the last time your thread with these last links, mostly in french. ( no comment: just in the case people be interested)

                PELNARD-CONSIDERE-CAQUOT 1994 035
                http://www.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/camt/fr/egf/donnees_efg/1994_035+2007_048/1994_035_INV.pdf
                Experimental Researches on Reinforced Concrete (1906) by Armand Considère
                http://www.archive.org/details/experimentalres01consgoog
                Albert Caquot portrait: [url=http://sabix.org/bulletin/:27vfjpjp]bulletin[/url:27vfjpjp] de l'école polytechnique ([url=http://sabix.org/:27vfjpjp]Sabix[/url:27vfjpjp])
                [url:27vfjpjp]http://sabix.org/bulletin/b28/28.html[/url:27vfjpjp]
                [url:27vfjpjp]http://sabix.revues.org/370?lang=en[/url:27vfjpjp]
                Les chocolats Menier, le pont Hardi et Armand Considère
                [url:27vfjpjp]http://pone.lateb.pagesperso-orange.fr/pont hardi.htm[/url:27vfjpjp]
                http://pone.lateb.pagesperso-orange.fr/armand%20considere.htm

                Cintre du pont la Caille sur le ravin des Usses, en Haute-Savoie (1928).

                http://sabix.revues.org/docannexe/image/370/img-2.jpg

                Le pont de la Caille sur le ravin des Usses (1928), record mondial à l’époque

                http://sabix.revues.org/docannexe/image/370/img-3.jpg

                end of the bump 😉
                ++simon

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                • T Offline
                  tim
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                  Hey Dale, isn't it fun doing the inside 'details'? I've been doing trim on my self-build timber frame for what seems like forever and it still has a want to go. I think the trick is to make sure you make some progress every day and just keep at it.

                  I have a build blog athttp://www.rowledge.org/tim/building/building/blog.html for anyone interested - including full SU and LO files.

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                  • daleD Offline
                    dale
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                    Simon
                    What a beautiful structure! As usual you have snet me on a really interesting exploration.

                    Tim
                    Thanks for the link to your blog.
                    What a beautiful house, and I really admire your attention to detail, but given your background in computers and code, I'm sure detail is second nature.
                    We seem to have a lot of similar taste ( ICF, Douglas Fir )and influences (Tedd Benson, Sarah Susanka) plus a love of woodworking (and tools) and time in the hallways of Colleges of Art. Not to mention the "From SketchUp to Reality" path of house building.
                    I hope you don't mind... I poached one of your Illustrations in SketchUp to encourage people to visit your website and blog. Well worth the visit and really inspiring.Screen shot 2011-11-30 at 6.12.06 AM.png
                    Here is the link againhttp://www.rowledge.org/tim/building/building/blog.html

                    Keep on trimming!
                    Oh and I still consult for a Nanaimo Company, and do make it down to the Island from time to time.
                    Maybe we can meet sometime, and I can buy you a beer.
                    Cheers

                    Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                    • EscapeArtistE Offline
                      EscapeArtist
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                      Fantastic! We are considering building our own slipform-style stone small home in the woods ourselves. Nice to see we aren't the only crazy ones out there with the idea. Thanks for the progress shots.

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by

                        Dale, have you considered a submission to here?
                        http://sketchupdate.blogspot.com/2011/11/how-do-you-make-ideas-real-with.html

                        I think it would be very a interesting read for many. 👍

                        Gai...

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                        • daleD Offline
                          dale
                          last edited by

                          @gaieus said:

                          Dale, have you considered a submission to here?
                          http://sketchupdate.blogspot.com/2011/11/how-do-you-make-ideas-real-with.html

                          I think it would be very a interesting read for many. 👍

                          Thanks for this Gaieus, I wasn't aware of this. There are some quite interesting projects shown.
                          I will have to give it a go.

                          Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                          • daleD Offline
                            dale
                            last edited by

                            Meanwhile, things are plodding along.
                            We finished the stone floors, well all except my thermostat floor probes haven't arrived yet, so I had to leave out an area where we can insert those.Screen shot 2011-12-01 at 7.24.38 AM.png
                            The Stone is a silver mica, and came out a beautiful grey blue when we put the finish on it.Screen shot 2011-12-01 at 7.24.56 AM.png
                            The drywallers are hard at it, just one more coat of mud on the basement to go, and they have all the upper floor ceilings hung. Here's a picture of Todd, I'm sure cursing my skylite chute 😄


                            Screen shot 2011-12-01 at 7.25.14 AM.png

                            Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                            • daleD Offline
                              dale
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                              So with the drywallers inside, I went outside and started soffits.
                              Weather is hovering right around the freezing mark, so it's not unpleasant at all.
                              The soffits angle back down to the wall from the fascia, and have miters on the corners. So the old compound miter head scratching.Screen shot 2011-12-01 at 7.25.34 AM.pngScreen shot 2011-12-01 at 7.25.46 AM.png
                              The soffits are pine 1x6 tongue and groove, and of course require venting, so I let the vents in to the pine.Screen shot 2011-12-01 at 7.25.55 AM.png
                              And with the pine started.Screen shot 2011-12-01 at 7.26.05 AM.png
                              So it's back up the scaffold I go.
                              Cheers!

                              Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                              • daleD Offline
                                dale
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                                Oh and since this is a SketchUp related thread.
                                Since I haven't been on the tools for 7 years or so, I got lazy and figured out the compound miters in Skp.
                                The soffits have a 5' (1.52m) overhang on the front and 3'(.91m) on the sidesScreen shot 2011-11-30 at 9.35.26 AM.pngScreen shot 2011-11-30 at 9.39.01 AM.pngScreen shot 2011-11-30 at 9.39.32 AM.pngScreen shot 2011-11-30 at 9.46.12 AM.png

                                Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                                • T Offline
                                  tim
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                                  @dale said:

                                  What a beautiful house, and I really admire your attention to detail, but given your background in computers and code, I'm sure detail is second nature.

                                  That and being borderline sociopath/obsessive-compulsive…

                                  For anyone else contemplating their own build I'd reiterate that obsession with detail thing; so many contractors are happy to let precision slip because it's just a job to them, day in, day out. If you show them the potential for making something nicer than they usually get to do, take part in the process and the work, turn up with enthusiasm every day, then it is amazing how much harder most of them will try. Details matter during the build, after the build as you live there and later when you want to change things.

                                  It's also good to live on the Fine Homebuilding website for a year or two to learn (at least) the words and phrases that communicate some knowledge of what you're up to. Better yet, you're likely to know something new in the field that might interest your subcontractors.

                                  @dale said:

                                  Oh and I still consult for a Nanaimo Company, and do make it down to the Island from time to time.
                                  Maybe we can meet sometime, and I can buy you a beer.
                                  Cheers

                                  Nice idea Dale. Sounds like a plan…

                                  Oh, and

                                  @dale said:

                                  Since I haven't been on the tools for 7 years or so, I got lazy and figured out the compound miters in Skp.

                                  I can't count the number of special printouts I did from the SU model to illustrate a detail of the roof decking angles, or rafter tenons, or electrical layout or, or, or. Invaluable.

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