Sukhoi SU-42
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Just do lower resolution til you get it right. No point doing cleared renders for prelims, especially if it's taking a while. Normally I'd do a few 800 pixel wide test renders then render overnight with massive resolution. Be careful with hdri because some bad ones make your render noisy (well, it takes AGES to clear)....so try playing round with environment. You may end up using a lower res hdr that renders quicker/better. Remember you can replace background with a high res version, all within thea. Jpegs as spherical IBL are usually crap, but great for high res background.
Are you actually using the sky hdr as light source? Because a quick way to get similar light condition is to render with physical sky only, no sun. Had some great results doing this. You can change the colour of the sky depending on time of day/sun position (even if it's turned off).
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@olishea said:
looking great liam, its just dying for an afternoon shot in that hangar.
yeah thats the end goal, going to model the hanger properly first as in Thea my average is 1 hour per pass in TR1
. ALl of these images are only 10 passes with some PP so sharpen them up.I left this on last night when I went to bed trying to get the sun in the right place. It doesnt match with the background plate but I will make a custom one myself at some pont.
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@olishea said:
Just do lower resolution til you get it right. No point doing cleared renders for prelims, especially if it's taking a while. Normally I'd do a few 800 pixel wide test renders then render overnight with massive resolution. Be careful with hdri because some bad ones make your render noisy (well, it takes AGES to clear)....so try playing round with environment. You may end up using a lower res hdr that renders quicker/better. Remember you can replace background with a high res version, all within thea. Jpegs as spherical IBL are usually crap, but great for high res background.
Are you actually using the sky hdr as light source? Because a quick way to get similar light condition is to render with physical sky only, no sun. Had some great results doing this. You can change the colour of the sky depending on time of day/sun position (even if it's turned off).
Yes I do all those things above. 8 passes seems enough to get rid of the noise. I always render small and only do the big versions overnight. THis is so I can PP in PS easily. No I am using physical sky as the light source.
Do you have THEA? I can send you the THEA scene file via dropbox if you want to play with it?
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honestly too busy for another project at the moment, maybe next week. My puny dual core is processing some sphericals I made so it's at a snail's pace. Ah so you like the physical sky method! Surprising you can still get great detail in the shadows. Of course you do all those things, sorry if it sounded like I was preaching to the converted!
Maybe no need to tweak sun position etc if you just use a good spherical IBL in the environment slot. You can supplement the sun strength if you need to. Only problem using just physical sky is lack of real reflections.
I do like the ripples in the concrete
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@olishea said:
honestly too busy for another project at the moment, maybe next week. Ah so you like the physical sky method! Surprising you can still get great detail in the shadows. Of course you do all those things, sorry if it sounded like I was preaching to the converted!
Maybe no need to tweak sun position etc if you just use a good spherical IBL in the environment slot. You can supplement the sun strength if you need to. Only problem using just physical sky is lack of real reflections.
Well I use physical sky for lighting but then I use an image for the reflection map. Yes I too am busy so cant really work on this. I usually tweak it for 30 mins to an hour every night and do some quick renders and then when happy (ish) leave a render on overnight to wake up pleasantly surprised - by how the image turns out Rich
My main machine is in constant use for work rendering things so this gets done on my lesser machine and sometimes my macbook air.
The concrete is from Thea forum not sure whose. Took me about a week to get the light to hit it correctly.
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I think a good IBL would work out better rather than tweaking three different parameters for environment (sun/phys sky/reflection map).
I can make you a high res spherical afternoon hdr in the next week or so? I'm nice like that. Depends entirely on weather at moment though!
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@olishea said:
:lol:
I think a good IBL would work out better rather than tweaking three different parameters for environment (sun/phys sky/reflection map).
I can make you a high res spherical afternoon hdr in the next week or so? I'm nice like that. Depends entirely on weather at moment though!
Yeah its grim here in London but I hear its a lot worse back home!
Thanks for that but dont put yourself out if its something I can get online. I did look at that website you linked me too earlier this week it had some good images.
I have been looking for one from inside a hanger for ages but cant find one.
If I make a hanger I am under the impression I create one from the model in THEA?
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Yeah get in the middle of the hangar and set projection to spherical. Can use it then in any scene you do. Remember equirectangular must be 2:1 ratio ie 4000x2000. Camera height of 1500mm is good.
You can get some low res ones online...but not like mine
I'll see if I have time anyway, it's not a promise I'll just keep you in mind. I'm making them non-stop at the moment you see.Try even finding a hangar photo in the afternoon ( I tried last night and closest I got was a photo of a 747 in afternoon sun!)
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@olishea said:
Yeah get in the middle of the hangar and set projection to spherical. Can use it then in any scene you do. Remember equirectangular must be 2:1 ratio ie 4000x2000. Camera height of 1500mm is good.
You can get some low res ones online...but not like mine
I'll see if I have time anyway, it's not a promise I'll just keep you in mind. I'm making them non-stop at the moment you see.Try even finding a hangar photo in the afternoon ( I tried last night and closest I got was a photo of a 747 in afternoon sun!)
I have a mate who works at Liverpool Airport at the private terminal. I might see if he can get a photo for me or if you intrested I can ask if you can go with your real camera, tripod?
Its probably a no as airports think everybody is a terrorist but I can check?
I used to take flying lesson and you could walk around etc but that was a few years ago. I think If you have permission and have somebody with you its ok. Then again you cant even take pictures in a train station now without a photo pass.
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@liam887 said:
@olishea said:
Yeah get in the middle of the hangar and set projection to spherical. Can use it then in any scene you do. Remember equirectangular must be 2:1 ratio ie 4000x2000. Camera height of 1500mm is good.
You can get some low res ones online...but not like mine
I'll see if I have time anyway, it's not a promise I'll just keep you in mind. I'm making them non-stop at the moment you see.Try even finding a hangar photo in the afternoon ( I tried last night and closest I got was a photo of a 747 in afternoon sun!)
I have a mate who works at Liverpool Airport at the private terminal. I might see if he can get a photo for me or if you intrested I can ask if you can go with your real camera, tripod?
Its probably a no as airports think everybody is a terrorist but I can check?
I used to take flying lesson and you could walk around etc but that was a few years ago. I think If you have permission and have somebody with you its ok. Then again you cant even take pictures in a train station now without a photo pass.
Yeah doubt I'd be able to get in there! Worth a try, likelihood of finding empty hangar might be remote though. I didn't know that about train stations! What's the world come to!
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@olishea said:
@liam887 said:
@olishea said:
Yeah get in the middle of the hangar and set projection to spherical. Can use it then in any scene you do. Remember equirectangular must be 2:1 ratio ie 4000x2000. Camera height of 1500mm is good.
You can get some low res ones online...but not like mine
I'll see if I have time anyway, it's not a promise I'll just keep you in mind. I'm making them non-stop at the moment you see.Try even finding a hangar photo in the afternoon ( I tried last night and closest I got was a photo of a 747 in afternoon sun!)
I have a mate who works at Liverpool Airport at the private terminal. I might see if he can get a photo for me or if you intrested I can ask if you can go with your real camera, tripod?
Its probably a no as airports think everybody is a terrorist but I can check?
I used to take flying lesson and you could walk around etc but that was a few years ago. I think If you have permission and have somebody with you its ok. Then again you cant even take pictures in a train station now without a photo pass.
Yeah doubt I'd be able to get in there! Worth a try, likelihood of finding empty hangar might be remote though. I didn't know that about train stations! What's the world come to!
Oh the hanger wont be empty it usually has a few small planes and a helicopter in so probably no good.
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@unknownuser said:
I have been looking for one from inside a hanger for ages but cant find one.
Perhaps you are not looking for an abandoned hangar (and it's not free), but this seems not bad.
http://www.hdri-hub.com/hdrishop/hdri/indoor/item/173-hdr-077-old-hangar
Also they have some free HDRI so you can try them.
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@massimo said:
@unknownuser said:
I have been looking for one from inside a hanger for ages but cant find one.
Perhaps you are not looking for an abandoned hangar (and it's not free), but this seems not bad.
http://www.hdri-hub.com/hdrishop/hdri/indoor/item/173-hdr-077-old-hangar
Also they have some free HDRI so you can try them.
Nice work Liam btw.Thanks
Thats not actually not so bad as I think I could model that quite easily.
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Was gonna say for what it's worth just model it! You are more than capable lol there is probably more geometry in your fuselage than the whole of a hangar!!
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@olishea said:
Was gonna say for what it's worth just model it! You are more than capable lol there is probably more geometry in your fuselage than the whole of a hangar!!
Yeah why do you think I offered to share the Thea file and not he SU. My billion poly model of course!
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Awe-Inspiring!
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