[Plugin] TextureTools

TIG · 10 Jun 2012, 19:43

If you are absolutely sure that the tool's file is OK then test it by moving all other .rb files out of your Plugins folder temporarily and restarting.

If it now works you know another 'now-not-loaded' script is causing the problem.

Now move half of the .rb files back into the Plugins folder.
Restart and retest.

Again if it now works you know another 'now-not-loaded' script is causing the problem.
therefore keep repeating the process until it fails...

When it fails you know you have just reintroduced the problem .rb file.

Move half out and retest... back and forth etc until you find the problem file.
Let us know the problem file !

As I said... I can't see how a flaky script might affect this tool...

the.pjt · 10 Jun 2012, 20:14

ok ... I will do it now ... wait about an hour plz /// ...

the.pjt · 11 Jun 2012, 10:14

hi .. TIG ... I have done the JOB and it still failed to compile .. I did it agane plus anything else I knew ,I re download it, re installed it and repaired SU using it's installer to update default .rb files .. , etc

but this plugin still doesn't works for me .. when I use "arrow keys" commands the dialog box is OK and the OK button is OK .. but no more ..

It didn't do its job even in a isolated plugin folder that includes only this plugin and TIG tools .... i'm surprised wht this happens .. but it's happens ..

I have uploaded MY folders whit current situations : this tool in plugin folder and only default files in tools folder ...

i have updated my SU to 8 M3 some days ago .. and there is a question : have you tested this in SU8 M3 ? .... . . . . something is still wrong

textools problem.rar

TIG · 11 Jun 2012, 12:48

Of course I have tested it with v8M3 [probably some months before you ]
I even just retested it to make sure I wasn't going mad
Your cut down file-sets look fine to me - incidentally you Tools folder ought to have two other .rb files by default 'dynamiccomponnents' and 'sandboxtools'... I assume you had excluded those too...

When you run my tools what happens exactly ?
Do you get error messages in the Ruby Console ?
Do you get dialogs to open ?
Does ANYTHING happen ?
Are there 'crashes' etc ??
When you select a face with a material on its front that has a texture what happens.

Are you 100% sure that what you are looking at is the face's front.
Backs are NOT adjustable.
This could be your issue... but without the SKP, who knows ??
View in Monochrome mode with a distinctive color for the back-face material [e.g. bright-blue] and check that you are not adjusting the unseen rear, which is in fact what should be the 'front'.
If you have messed up there are tools like my 'FixReverseFaceMaterials' which flip over faces and materials so that the texture is then on the front AND the front is facing where the back used to be...

If all else fails post or PM the SKP [zipped] and explain what is is you are trying to do...

the.pjt · 12 Jun 2012, 17:48

oh .... yes TIG .... it was back face ... the blue ... he he ... I didn't know that .. I thought your tools works on every face sides .. and by default I drew a revered face - the back side !! the rectangle tool creates back sided face ...

I did everything I knew to fix it ... !! ... he he .. I completely copy and pasted all my ruby files .. and cleaned up all my plugins ... I rearranged and relocated all my toolbars several times ..

and all of them was useless tasks .. everything was OK ... !! ... he he ...

thanks TIG .. I was so stupid

TIG · 12 Jun 2012, 19:31

Good
We have the answer - PEBCAC.***

The tip is, "Make sure you model your faces the right way round!"
It's ymportant when adjusting textures and also when exporting you model to most 3rd party renderers, which will usually ignore materials on back-faces and dutifully render the unseen front-faces

***Problem Exists Between Chair And Computer - i.r. YOU

Buki · 15 Jun 2012, 15:45

I didn't see anyone else having this problem, but I'm not getting the toolbar following install. The plugin does show in the plugin drop down menu. I did already have a TIGtools folder and extracted the contents of the TIGtools folder included in the download to that location. This is certainly a user error, any ideas
chrisa

TIG · 15 Jun 2012, 21:12

Buki

If you get the menu items working, then it is loading OK.
So first a simple question...
Have you activated the Toolbar from Views > Toolbars ?
By default it's inactive after the initial installation...
Even if you had misplaced the toolbar-buttons' png files the activated toolbar would still exist, but with blank buttons ??

Buki · 15 Jun 2012, 21:25

@tig said:

Buki

If you get the menu items working, then it is loading OK.
So first a simple question...
Have you activated the Toolbar from Views > Toolbars ?
By default it's inactive after the initial installation...
Even if you had misplaced the toolbar-buttons' png files the activated toolbar would still exist, but with blank buttons ??

Yep, like I guessed, user error. I didn't see that it was off by default in the tools menu. I was a bit hasty in asking, thank you for getting back to me so quickly

bigteks · 24 Jul 2012, 05:18

awesome thanks

okomta · 23 Apr 2013, 03:47

thanks man,,very helpful,,

marco62118 · 19 May 2013, 17:24

good evening
I try to use your pluggin to change the size of a tiling texture, but each time the texture turns along the dimension changes

thank you in advance

TIG · 19 May 2013, 18:52

@marco62118 said:

good evening
I try to use your pluggin to change the size of a tiling texture, but each time the texture turns along the dimension changes

thank you in advance
You need to use the scale and then the position tool together...
You haven't explained very clearly what it is you want to do and what it's doing

marco62118 · 20 May 2013, 20:17

good evening
I do not understand the plugin does not respond
dialog boxes are displayed correctly, but nothing happens

Can you help me?

CadFather · 21 May 2013, 06:37

the plugin only works on front faces (not sure why) - so, check that your texture is painted facing front and then try again. perhaps TIG can make it work on back face as well in the future.

TIG · 21 May 2013, 12:47

These tools only works on front-faces... because that's where textured-material ought to be applied.

Applying a material onto a back-face is just bad practice.
Back-faces should never be visible.
Modeling with reversed faces can lead to many problems when pushpulling, applying cutting components etc, and when the SKP is exported, used in many rendering applications etc, etc...

The native context-menu Texture tool will adjust front/back-face textures, depending on which side of the face you are seeing... use that if you insist on sloppy modeling.

BUT I deliberately discourage the application of materials on back-faces.
So these tools will only ever adjust textured-materials applied onto front-faces.

Use Monochrome mode, with a contrasting back-face default-material in the Style, to check that you are not modeling 'inside out'
The context-menu items Reverse and Orient are useful to fix reversed faces as you model - shortcut keys is highly recommended. Also use Monochrome as you model to check the correctness of the faces' orientation. Only start applying materials and texturing once the geometry is pretty much resolved...

CadFather · 21 May 2013, 17:09

yes, i understand, though i guess that's only if you are using a rendering package, if you use SU for render, than back faces are just as good - and of course when you paint both you don't get those pesky flickering edges.

Arc · 24 Sept 2013, 02:29

Eneroth Texture Positioning Tools
http://extensions.sketchup.com/en/content/eneroth-texture-positioning-tools

Is this same plugin?

TIG · 24 Sept 2013, 08:39

@arc said:

Eneroth Texture Positioning Tools
http://extensions.sketchup.com/en/content/eneroth-texture-positioning-tools

Is this same plugin?
No, mine is the original one...

Mafalda_Melo_Oliveira · 16 Oct 2013, 10:37

How do I install?