Google Censorship?
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But surely the definition of what is "news" is a very subjective thing. The BBC regularly features "news" which is no more than celebrity gossip and trivia (in my opinion). They often do this on days when there are much more significant news stories, but presumably anything that might make the British government look bad has to be sandwiched between a story about a z-list celebrity divorce and an neighbourhood argument about high hedges.
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I don't think anything should be censored. What right does someone else have to say what we should or should not watch, listen and think about? People are intelligent enough to make their own minds up- even if many appear to be rooted firmly in the eyes of sensationalism.
There's a good article by Brendan O'Neill on Spiked about Wikileaks. Worth a read.
and another, on the same site by American writer Sean Collins;
We do need a few less 'gobshites' like Jones around. Perhaps we just need to poke more fun at them though, rather than simply ban them? Does anyone remember ex-BBC Sports presenter, David Icke?
Tom
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@khai said:
@notareal said:
then we disagree. if you own something you get to make the rules about that. company or private individual - you get to make the rules about your property so long as it's within the laws of the land.
plus I'm still not seeing the other side of this, eg the google side? no one got anything?
Google is doing a business decision, but that does not meat it has no censorship like implications. Such business decisions most likely are not politically motivated, but they can have political consequences.
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I wish those clowns would go away. But, what I wish is not important. However, the only thing that will drive them away is indifference, even if it is studied indifference.
In other words, the perpetrators must decide to censor themselves. (probably ain't gonna happen) -
This is going to make a great movie...
Run Julian run....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40467957/ns/us_news-wikileaks_in_security/
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Eco about Wikileaks etc
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Counter balance the Google debate, see they are good guys.
http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/12/02/5567082-google-sucker-punches-online-retail-bully
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@solo said:
Counter balance the Google debate, see they are good guys.
http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/12/02/5567082-google-sucker-punches-online-retail-bully
Interesting..
I would expect that the amount of bad referencies he was deliberately created would have to sink his business
Better search ranking should catalyze his decline... -
"Listen, b*tch ... I know your address. I’m one bridge over."
Mr. Borker needs an educational kick in the groin.
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@solo said:
This is going to make a great movie...
Run Julian run....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40467957/ns/us_news-wikileaks_in_security/ -
That's a bit OTT isn't it?
Why doesn't he just encourage journalism to be less lazy?
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@starling75 said:
@solo said:
This is going to make a great movie...
Run Julian run....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40467957/ns/us_news-wikileaks_in_security/Sounds fairly ridiculous and scary. Why not to start learning to keep secrets as secrets
Honestly, when a "secret" is leaked outside some organization then there is something already gone wrong badly - It's usually some employer who feels that the secret must be make public and/or security measures are broken (like lost USB stick).
I sure understand that these leaks are bad for US government and they foreign relations, but I cannot understand the rage against Wikileaks. The in-house leaker could as easily have picked some (or multiple) established traditional journals. Well... actually they have published the material (even before Wikileaks made the documents public) and still I have not hear any rage against washingtonpost or any US media. At the same time, some government official begging for assassination of Julian Assange - some hypocrisy? (maybe this needs a own topic) -
@unknownuser said:
Lieberman Introduces Anti-WikiLeaks Legislation
@unknownuser said:
some government official begging for assassination of Julian Assange
The old cronies are scared and this is all they have left.
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Have to give a bit credit for the google with wikileaks embassy cables. At least they have not behaved like PayPal, Amazon, EveryDNS or Tableau Software who all did kick wikileaks off from they service apparently after some governmental pressure, and the key data is still available as google fusiontables.
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@escapeartist said:
Checked out the site, this guy is one step below Rush Limbaugh and the rest; it's conspiracy craziness and supposition with an inflammatory bent. The only thing missing is UFOs and Black Helicopters, but the site has the veneer of a proper news outlet. I see no real "news" content, it's all opinion and loosely tied together half-truths. No reason for Google to put it up as news. Typical fringe talk; he's repressed, it's all a conspiracy to shut him and his site down, Google is spying on the world, blah, blah, blah...
Boy sounds like what I see every day on TV, congress ( both right and left) etc. Informed public should be able to make up their own minds without mommy telling them what to believe. If it really proves bad it will wither and die on the vine. I was once told to believe 1/2 what you see and 1/4 what you are told, I think we have raised a world of victims that can not make a decision on any thing w/o someone telling them what to do and thus they are not responsible for anything.
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Not entirely related to the thread's subject, so slightly off topic, but I thought this one was highly amusing. Personally I just don't see what all the fuss is about over Google collecting geospatial map data, but this one is particularly funny (both by name and amount they received in compensation)!
Sorry! 404. Here's a bear.
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I can't vouch though for the truth in the subject- coming from the Metro newspaper!
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jeez ....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/07/wikileaks-joe-lieberman-new-york-times-investigated
US federal law isn't global law, isn't it? ...
BTW
http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2010/12/wikileaks_texas_company_helped.php -
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I'd love it if the Guardian got investigated!!
It would wipe its ugly smug smile off its ugly smug Grauniad face (Grauniad being a once joke about a paper who used to also be quite good at making a lot of spelling and typo mistakes). The paper isn't a patch on what it used to be. Although always a liberal newspaper, The Guardian has become more like a tabloid- like The Daily Mail. In fact one could argue that both newspapers have become increasingly sensationalist to hold onto their readers as well as gain new ones. It's why I now read Spiked Online, because it looks at a lot of these sensationalist stories from another perspective, one which exposes much contradiction. This is why I don't find Wikileaks at all cutting edge.
You've got to remember that the internet changed a lot of things- especially newspapers. A brilliant illustration of this were in HBO's The Wire series, where local Baltimore newspapers ran a fictional story about a mass homeless killer- just in order to keep newspaper sales up, yet under their nose, a far more important story involving gang culture and real murder had arisen, a story that was totally ignored.
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@unknownuser said:
@johnsenior1973 said:
Alex Jones is a nutter. People who follow him are fools. Society is correct to protect these fools by blocking their access to Alex Jones.
Don't you think people should decide for themselves what to watch and what not?
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