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      tomsdesk
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      TwilightRender


      AA off


      AA on

      http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
      2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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        tomsdesk
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        LightUp


        AA off


        AA on

        http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
        2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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          tomsdesk
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          Podium


          AA off


          AA on

          http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
          2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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            tomsdesk
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            RenderIn


            AA off


            AA on

            http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
            2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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              tomsdesk
              last edited by

              Kerkythea


              AA off


              AA on

              http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
              2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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                tomsdesk
                last edited by

                So...that's all I know about rendering programs: anybody out there able to help Clay, that's some really weird and consistant render result!?!

                Podium guys?

                http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
                2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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                  Edson
                  last edited by

                  tom,

                  I am sending you the file whose picture I posted above.


                  's Várias 2.skp

                  edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                  http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                  • honoluludesktopH Offline
                    honoluludesktop
                    last edited by

                    Green shadows? Tom do your leaves have any degree of transparency? AdamB, is LightUp able to render colored light casting through colored (semi-transparent) glass?

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                      tomsdesk
                      last edited by

                      @honoluludesktop said:

                      Green shadows? Tom do your leaves have any degree of transparency?

                      Yes, the leaf-bunch pngs in the trees tested in LightUp are set at 98% to eliminate most of the "edge halo" in SU.

                      http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
                      2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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                        tomsdesk
                        last edited by

                        Well, Edson, I tried but I just couldn't reproduce your problem...looks to me like this is a question for the podium gurus.

                        I took a look around your model and you had indeed exploded the images just as I would have. Then I reopened the model just as you sent it and started rendering (limited by the demo size):

                        's Varias_podium2.jpg
                        's Varias_podium5.jpg
                        's Varias_podium3.jpg
                        Here's another view (podium first, twilight second):

                        's Várias 2_podium.jpg
                        's Várias 2_twilight.jpg
                        Here's another reinforcement for not using SU's AA textures:

                        AA on
                        AA off

                        http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
                        2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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                        • EdsonE Offline
                          Edson
                          last edited by

                          tom,

                          the whole thing is really weird. perhaps the problem shown in the second image I posted has to do with not having made each copy of the tree unique.

                          are you using podium 1.7 or 2?

                          I am patiently rendering each of your trees individually to see what happens. so far, no problems.

                          edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                          http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                            tomsdesk
                            last edited by

                            Edson...podium 1.7: I didn't see a demo for V2

                            http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
                            2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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                              notareal
                              last edited by

                              From Thea... what I seen 2.5D trees usually work fine. Just export and render.


                              render-tree.jpg

                              Welcome to try [Thea Render](http://www.thearender.com/), Thea support | [kerkythea.net](http://www.kerkythea.net/) -team member

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                                FilipAGuy
                                last edited by

                                Hello guys.

                                I want to buy some of TOM´s tree packs, so I tryed to render samples posted
                                on this forum with Podium V2 (2.02). And I got very similar results as Edson.

                                rendered model as it comes
                                rendered model in clay mode (no textures)

                                Than I tryed to explode model. I exploded model completly, but wasnt working
                                also. Only option which left was "unhide".

                                rendered model exploded + unhide

                                Only problem now is that model is not rotating anymore. I gonna try other samples.

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                                  Edson
                                  last edited by

                                  perhaps you are exploding the images incorrectly. I suggest you go to tom's page at Solo's Place, scroll down the page and read his instructions.

                                  edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                                  http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                                    tomsdesk
                                    last edited by

                                    These trees don't need exploding...looks like you have "rendering" set to "use AA textures"...?

                                    0renderingAAoff.jpg

                                    see here: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=32842&p=295990#p292038

                                    http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
                                    2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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                                      FilipAGuy
                                      last edited by

                                      @tomsdesk said:

                                      These trees don't need exploding...looks like you have "rendering" set to "use AA textures"...?

                                      [attachment=0:1w60mhgz]<!-- ia0 -->0renderingAAoff.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1w60mhgz]

                                      see here: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=32842&p=295990#p292038

                                      I rendered without AA turned on and result is still same. Sorry guys Im just real noob in this. Im
                                      sure that is my fault. Trying to render again. 😄

                                      Edit: So I need to explode which part of tree to run it properly ? Without exploding whole model it doesnt work for me.
                                      At this moment Im realy stucked with all. SketchUp and Podium.Maybe I need vacation 😕 😞

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                                        tomsdesk
                                        last edited by

                                        Again, no exploding necessary...it's looking like this issue is only with the newest version of podium: what do the podium guys say?

                                        http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
                                        2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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                                          clayc54
                                          last edited by

                                          i completely missed the extension of this thread! thanks for trying out the render options.

                                          ive posted this thread in the podium forum to see if anyone knows why v2 is producing those results.

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                                          • bigstickB Offline
                                            bigstick
                                            last edited by

                                            Guys,

                                            The best place for this kind of discussion is the Podium forum, you would have got a definitive answer a long time ago.
                                            As a rule, the team don't follow Podium discussions on other forums, I only found this because clay posted a link on our site.

                                            This is the long-standing textured components issue that has been plaguing us for some time. We are working on it, but until we get a fix, the solution is to explode the components. Generally you can regroup/recomponentise them afterwards.

                                            We do have a V2 trial version 😄

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