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    • M Offline
      Mr Tee
      last edited by

      Hi!
      I have a problem when I uploag models on the 3d warehouse.
      I have made them into a dynamic component. When I then test the model via searching for it throught the componentwindow in sketchup it
      downloads correct as a component.. But when I download it stright from the 3d warehouse website and then open it up in sketchup the model is in separate pieces??

      grateful for response!

      thank you!

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
        last edited by

        Because you need to File > Import components into an existing model.

        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
          last edited by

          Hi Mr. Tee (and welcome)!

          For this, you need to understand a very important thing; all components are actually real, full SketchUp models that you use insideanother model. Imagine somehow like this:

          (your current model [another model included as component] any other geometry etc...)

          Now if you create a DC inside your model, and upload it by right clicking and uploading to the warehouse, it will not upload as a component but as a simple model. If you open that model, you will not see any DC functionalities but the pieces "inside" that model. It is somehow similar to when you edit a component inside your model - when you are in edit mode, the functionalities do not work because they only work when in relationship to the outside of the component inserted in a model.

          You get the same result when you right click on a component and "Save as...". It will be saved as a full SU model that you can open but without the functionalities that would work only "from outside", when you insert it into another model.

          Components other than DC's can also have behaviours that ony work when you insert them into a model (but never when you open them separately).

          This is the case with components that glue to or cut holes on faces and components that face to the camera when looking at them from outside, inserted into another model.

          Have a look at this model of mine in the 3D Warehouse for instance. If you insert it into another model as a component, it will always rotate and face to the camera. However if you open it straight away, it will do nothing. The face me properties are stored at model level in it (Open the Model info dialog from the Window menu and go to the "File" tab - it is something that you can see in the "Make component" dialog).

          So you have two choices in this case;

          • upload it as a component and write up something in the description field like I did in the above example
          • or do not upload as a component but upload the whole file - but in this case write something like "if you load this as a component, explode the outer shell first".
            (When a component is inside another component, we call this latter an "outer shell")

          Gai...

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          • M Offline
            Mr Tee
            last edited by

            Thanks for response and for explaining that topic!
            I Think i'll upload them as components, have a look if you like:
            http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=c8d10e463cbec8a4ab610b0c94236463&prevstart=0

            The idea is that it should be as easy as possible for people that are new to sketchup to use all our models.
            It would also be good to be able to send a link to people so the can easily access all of our products in one collection.
            But then i guess they will have the problem with the objects that are broken down?

            thanks again!

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
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              @mr tee said:

              But then i guess they will have the problem with the objects that are broken down?

              Only if they open instead of imports them.
              You can wrap everything in your model into a group - to ensure things stay groups if they should open instead of importing.

              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              • M Offline
                Mr Tee
                last edited by

                Hi!
                Yes i guess if I tell them to import instead s you suggested it should work.
                Wrap as a group is good to!
                Thanks!

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
                  last edited by

                  May I ask what is dynamic in that model? It does report as dynamic but when I insert it into my model, I cannot access any dynamics.

                  Anyway, I would still suggest to add that one-liner like "insert it straight into your model" or such. Just in case someone does not get it.

                  When we are at it, I could not resist to make a 5' render of your desk (I never do such "techie" models so it was kind of refreshment)


                  desk.jpg

                  Gai...

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                  • M Offline
                    Mr Tee
                    last edited by

                    nice render mate! πŸ˜„

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                    • M Offline
                      Mr Tee
                      last edited by

                      @gaieus said:

                      May I ask what is dynamic in that model? It does report as dynamic but when I insert it into my model, I cannot access any dynamics.

                      Nothing is really dynamic. but when I first started with this project I thought it was best to wrap them up in a component if we wanted to use some attributes later!

                      Im trying to understand collections, im not sure if the 3d warehouse is ment to work this way but ideally I would like to use them for our products in a hierarchy, where the underlying collections only shows under another collection.. at the moment the underlying one also is showing by itself??
                      I would like to send a link to a client where he can easalie overview and download all our products as models. is that possible in the warehouse?

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by

                        Ah, okay. I thought I was overlooking something, sorry.

                        Keeping your models in collections is always a good idea (I should not be so lazy not to do this myself)

                        Gai...

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                        • M Offline
                          Mr Tee
                          last edited by

                          No worries!

                          By the way what renderer are u using?

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                          • GaieusG Offline
                            Gaieus
                            last edited by

                            I have Twilight, IDX Renditioner, Kerkythea and Thea (just starting to learn). Also LightUp Evaluation version (trying to get the hang of it).

                            Gai...

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