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    • daleD Offline
      dale
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      Heiru and Simon
      I find it refreshing, Starks musings. And totally opposite of some of the "Architect Speak", where questionable concepts are clouded in large words and coined phrases to basically make me feel dumb, and therefore give consent. (This is not intended to single out Architects, as this exists in the design field and many others including product design, interior design, landscape design.....)
      I read a little article recently meant to spoof this way of speaking.

      A Discourse on Emerging Tectonic Visualization and the Effects of Materiality on Praxis
      Or an essay on the ridiculous way architects talk.
      By Witold Rybczynski

      But so much of design is subjective.
      My Mother loved Pink.
      The bathroom was awash with Pink fluff. To her this was comfortable elegance, and probably was a real luxury for a lower middle class woman.
      And think of the era (maybe it did not infect Europe) of Avacado appliances and Orange shag rugs that you could lose a pizza in.
      Like so many things in Society we endorsed, and bought right in.
      And now it is rising up again as Retro (ORIGIN from Latin retro ‘backward.’)

      So it is nice to have a Stark who is contemplating the fine details.
      And it is nice to have the ability to say we don't agree with his interpretation.

      As for "mauvais goût" (which I believe can be roughly translated as "Bad taste"
      Perhaps it is there for contrast. 😄

      Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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      • HieruH Offline
        Hieru
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        I know plenty of people who find Starck's use of language to be impenetrable, but I understand what you mean Dale.

        The key difference for me is that despite Starck's eccentric use of language, he expresses himself in a manner that is very humanistic and sympathetic to how we interact with one another and our environment - which does of course include a desire to surround ourselves with beautiful stuff.

        Some designers and companies are so self absorbed they forget that people have actually got to use these products and live with them on a daily basis.

        www.davidhier.co.uk

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        • simon le bonS Offline
          simon le bon
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          Hi Dave and Hieru,

          interesting sequence of this thread isn't it?
          Thank you again Dale for the reflections and the (pink) souvenirs!

            • we also (in France) had been "infected" by "Orange shag rugs that you could lose a pizza in." 😆

          It comes to me that the system is incredibly adaptive. The new "Bad Taste" (well wrapped) seems to me becoming the new "weapon for marketing"

          I don't know as much as you both about PH. Starck

          agree with your Hieru that "he expresses himself in a manner that is very humanistic and sympathetic"
          for me those two pictures express that feeling:

          http://i1.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens4760142module34681312photo_1242776981philippe_starck_body_art_writing.jpg

          The article Dale you were talking about:
          http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/architecture/2011/02/a_discourse_on_emerging_tectonic_visualization_and_the_effects_of_materiality_on_praxis.html

          I'm actually reading with great interest a book from another free thinking architect :Entretiens sur l'architecture par Eugène Viollet Le Duc.

          Here is the link to read it and download it translated into English:
          [url=http://www.archive.org/details/discoursesonarc00violgoog:2wqzmau8]Discourses on architecture (1959)[/url:2wqzmau8]

          ++simon

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          • daleD Offline
            dale
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            Thanks for the link to the Eugène Viollet Le Duc book Simon.
            I am aware that he was criticized for "altering" the restorations he worked on, so it would be interesting to see his point of view.
            Watch out, if you keep up this reading pattern you will be reading Leon Battista Alberti before you know it> 😄
            Cheers

            Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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            • daleD Offline
              dale
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              It is not hard to see the major progress that, in particular, the introduction of new materials and technology, has allowed the field of design, in all it's aspects, to make.
              Then:Screen shot 2012-02-24 at 6.11.54 AM.png

              Now:Screen shot 2012-02-24 at 6.14.31 AM.png

              But some of the most innovative have adopted a new future.
              My interest was piqued after seeing the lamp Marcus designed and then followed through by having 3D printed. http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=384833#p384833

              I stumbled upon the company "Freedom of Creation". I can't help but think that the developing technologies around 3D printing are going to have as big an impact on the design of products and the way they are manufactured and marketed as those PDA's we all rely on have had on our lives.Screen shot 2012-02-24 at 6.06.11 AM.png
              From Cad...Screen shot 2012-02-24 at 6.09.27 AM.png
              To Product...Screen shot 2012-02-24 at 6.03.39 AM.png

              And here is something they are working on at the moment. 3 Dimensional Fabric.Screen shot 2012-02-24 at 6.06.39 AM.png
              If you are a talented modeler, or a creative designer, I can't help feel your future is bright.

              Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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              • daleD Offline
                dale
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                And this is where it leads.Screen shot 2012-02-24 at 6.45.31 AM.pngScreen shot 2012-02-24 at 6.46.05 AM.pngScreen shot 2012-02-24 at 6.45.43 AM.png

                Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                • daleD Offline
                  dale
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                  More research into Digital Prototyping lead me to the website of Scott Eaton.
                  I was intrigued by this little guy, his ipod docking station.
                  Screen shot 2012-02-25 at 6.28.42 AM.png
                  His education which includes a Masters from MIT Media Lab, and also traditional studies at the Florence Academy of Art, have certainly combined to bring about some interesting career choices, including work with Steven Spielberg, and on the Harry Potter films.
                  What may be of real interest to some on this Forum, are his Tutorials. http://www.scott-eaton.com/tutorials
                  Much on sculpting (digitally) the human form, mostly in ZBrush.
                  And should you really wish to up the anti, he is offering an online course in figure sculpture starting in April. http://www.scott-eaton.com/digital-figure-sculptureScreen shot 2012-02-25 at 6.42.48 AM.png

                  Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                  • mitcorbM Offline
                    mitcorb
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                    Hi, dale:
                    I am still following your excellent thread. Keep up the good work.

                    I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                    • simon le bonS Offline
                      simon le bon
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                      Dear Dale,

                      Let me prefer the first one 😉 😄

                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/Screenshot2012-02-24_B.jpg

                      Concerning Alberti, Leo Battista (1404-1472)
                      This link, especially for collectors:

                      De re ædificatoria libri decem

                      http://architectura.cesr.univ-tours.fr/traite/Images/ENSBA208/B_751062305_20_0001.jpg

                      and these interesting articles about him (in french I'm sorry)
                      http://architectura.cesr.univ-tours.fr/traite/Images/ENSBA208/B_751062305_20_0001.jpg
                      Lire Alberti aujourd'hui

                      😄 simon

                      PS: Thank you for the sculpture turorials +++

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                      • daleD Offline
                        dale
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                        Simon. You always seem to be able to find the most interesting online documents 👍

                        This caught my attention:Screen shot 2012-02-26 at 6.38.37 AM.png
                        A practical, but at the same time whimsical little light you could really have some fun with.Screen shot 2012-02-26 at 6.38.07 AM.png
                        And it took me to http://northernlighting.no/our-products/ a Norwegian Lighting company.
                        More whimsy:Screen shot 2012-02-26 at 6.39.55 AM.png
                        But then the Pièce de résistance.Screen shot 2012-02-26 at 6.36.43 AM.pngScreen shot 2012-02-26 at 6.33.47 AM.png
                        Does that not just make your day 😄

                        Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                        • simon le bonS Offline
                          simon le bon
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                          Hi Dale,

                          Do you think "A VINTAGE SEQUENCE" would be interesting?


                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/thIMAG0103.jpg


                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/thIMAG0104.jpg

                          ❓ 😎 simon

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                          • daleD Offline
                            dale
                            last edited by

                            And we are off..... 😄
                            I was just thinking that there are probably many forum members who have never actually used a rotary phone 😲Screen shot 2012-02-28 at 6.23.59 AM.png
                            Or sat transfixed by this...Screen shot 2012-02-28 at 6.24.35 AM.png

                            But because this is a thread on fine design, here are some vintage sweethearts. Bowden Spacelander Bicycle – Designed by Ben Bowden – 1946; Manufactured 1960
                            Screen shot 2012-02-28 at 6.17.59 AM.png

                            The Kit Kat Clock (Eyes and Tail move) 1932 by the California Clock CompanyScreen shot 2012-02-28 at 6.19.17 AM.png
                            😆
                            Please feel free to contribute

                            Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                            • david_hD Offline
                              david_h
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                              I'm in . . .

                              The first car I remember riding in. . .my parents owned a 1959 Studebaker Lark. It was even this color.

                              Awesome car.


                              59_Stude.png

                              If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                              • daleD Offline
                                dale
                                last edited by

                                My Uncle had one of these. It was Pink and Grey, and your right, it was awesome. 👍

                                Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                                • simon le bonS Offline
                                  simon le bon
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                                  Fine Design Spans Eras
                                  Nice Bicycle, Nice car 👍 👍

                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/32071230_842c6e0567_o.jpg

                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/4211817321_7a954f30c5_z.jpg

                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/5025259258_9b1fe17dc2_z.jpg

                                  A little bumpy but anyway,
                                  here a Maserati Indy (personal phone picts)
                                  (all Maserati)


                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/thIMAG0010.jpg


                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/thIMAG0011.jpg


                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/thIMAG0012.jpg

                                  😄 simon

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                                  • daleD Offline
                                    dale
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                                    I've always wanted a Maserati. A tool to lose your license with 😄

                                    Richard Neutra
                                    Kaufman House 1946Screen shot 2012-02-29 at 6.21.10 AM.png

                                    Haus Rentsch 1964Screen shot 2012-02-29 at 6.22.04 AM.png

                                    Kramer House 1953Screen shot 2012-02-29 at 6.25.03 AM.png

                                    Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                                    • daleD Offline
                                      dale
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                                      Another Retro Beauty
                                      Case Study House #22
                                      Pierre KoenigScreen shot 2012-02-29 at 6.25.21 AM.png

                                      The link between the above photos is there were taken by the father of Architectural Photography
                                      Julius Shulman
                                      http://www.getty.edu/art/exhibitions/shulman/

                                      Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                                      • boofredlayB Offline
                                        boofredlay
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                                        Mine Furniture.
                                        More images here:
                                        http://www.beautifullife.info/interior-design/the-mine-furniture-by-mati-karmin/

                                        http://www.beautifullife.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/09/01.jpg

                                        http://www.beautifullife.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/09/04.jpg

                                        http://www.beautifullife.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/09/09.jpg

                                        http://www.beautifullife.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/09/01.jpg

                                        http://www.beautifullife.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/09/10.jpg

                                        http://www.beautifullife.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/09/12.jpg

                                        http://www.beautifullife.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/09/14.jpg

                                        http://www.beautifullife.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/09/19.jpg

                                        http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                                        • daleD Offline
                                          dale
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                                          I love that wood stove, but the baby carriage had that Rosemary's baby appeal 😮
                                          Then I looked inside it...Screen shot 2012-03-03 at 6.22.38 AM.png

                                          Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                                          • daleD Offline
                                            dale
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                                            Sometimes the finest designs just happen...Screen shot 2012-03-03 at 6.20.24 AM.png

                                            Now, normally that would be a hard act to follow.
                                            Then i caught a glimpse of the work of Joseph Walsh http://www.josephwalshstudio.com/2011/index.php/homeScreen shot 2012-03-03 at 6.24.31 AM.png

                                            I think Mr. Walsh says it all in the first paragraph:Screen shot 2012-03-03 at 6.27.11 AM.pngScreen shot 2012-03-03 at 6.25.16 AM.pngScreen shot 2012-03-03 at 6.25.49 AM.png

                                            Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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