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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      Have you tried making a brand new vector zDown=Geom::Vector3d.new(0,0,-1), instead of using Z_AXIS.reverse in case that's the glitch ?
      πŸ˜’ πŸ˜’ πŸ˜’

      TIG

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
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        @tig said:

        Have you tried making a brand new vector zDown=Geom::Vector3d.new(0,0,-1), instead of using Z_AXIS.reverse in case that's the glitch ?
        πŸ˜’ πŸ˜’ πŸ˜’

        Does the rolling eyes mean you got it working?

        Creating a new vector made no difference - and I don't see why it would, it's a frozen constant.
        Did you suspect the .reverse method to be faulty?

        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          Don't read too much into the rolling eyes - desperation at the v8 API breaking things...
          I just threw in some random ideas...... Sometimes the simplest thing is the answer... Sometimes it's NOT 😲

          TIG

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
            last edited by

            yea - I tried it because - it might just have been that. I've learned from SU to never ever make solid assumptions. 😞

            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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            • Didier BurD Offline
              Didier Bur
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              Hi,
              Does all this mean that scripts that use raytests (compo spray for instance) are broken in SU8 ? 😲 😑

              DB

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
                last edited by

                Looks like it.
                I've been doing some tests with my test model.

                If I erase all CPoints the rays shot are working.
                If I group the CPoints the rays shot are working.
                If I group the CPoints, and then enter the group some rays shotstart failing.

                So at the moment it appears that CPoints in model.active_entities can cause raytest to fail.

                This is a major breakage IMO. I really hope we don't have to wait months for a maintenance release.

                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                • Didier BurD Offline
                  Didier Bur
                  last edited by

                  πŸ‘Ώ πŸ‘Ώ πŸ‘Ώ πŸ‘Ώ πŸ‘Ώ

                  DB

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
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                    I'm still trying to work out why/which rays fail. I've seen no pattern so far.

                    All I manage to do now is detect incorrect rays, by comparing the vector from the point shot to the point hit, is it's not in the same direction of the ray then it's the bug that has struck. But atm the only workaround I've come up with is manually iterate the model and run intersect_line_* on all the entities. Basically rewrite of the raytest - just slower. 😑

                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                    • daikuD Offline
                      daiku
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                      I can confirm that this bug has broken my scripts as well. I add cpoints based on where the ray interects with a face, and the points get added "out in the weeds", not on the face. CB.

                      Clark Bremer
                      http://www.northernlightstimberframing.com

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                      • thomthomT Offline
                        thomthom
                        last edited by

                        @daiku said:

                        I can confirm that this bug has broken my scripts as well. I add cpoints based on where the ray interects with a face, and the points get added "out in the weeds", not on the face. CB.

                        If you cache the points for where you place the CPoints until after you have done all the raytracing, does it work then? (Ensuring there are no CPoints in current context before you start)

                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
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                          Trying to visualize the data to find a pattern in the failure - without any luck.

                          At appears that all raytests that fail and return 0,0,0 all report the same CPoint in the path array.
                          SU8-raytest 01.png

                          However, removing the CPoint they all refer to and on the next run they all refer to another one. It appear to be random junk data.
                          SU8-raytest 02.png

                          Still not seeing any patterns in the rays that fail...

                          ` #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea9f70 - Point3d(375.81, 168.165, 306.856)...
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea9bd8 - Point3d(66.8371, -18.5047, 306.856)...

                          ERROR!
                          [Point3d(0, 0, 0), [#Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea9f70]]
                          Vector3d(-66.8371, 18.5047, -306.856)
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea9854 - Point3d(303.817, -13.1038, 306.856)...
                          ERROR!
                          [Point3d(0, 0, 0), [#Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea9f70]]
                          Vector3d(-303.817, 13.1038, -306.856)
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea94e4 - Point3d(237.913, 486.227, 306.856)...
                          ERROR!
                          [Point3d(0, 0, 0), [#Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea9f70]]
                          Vector3d(-237.913, -486.227, -306.856)
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea9174 - Point3d(450.857, 366.827, 306.856)...
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea8e90 - Point3d(390.368, 111.841, 306.856)...
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea8c38 - Point3d(572.779, 146.892, 306.856)...
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea89e0 - Point3d(493.91, 227.955, 306.856)...
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea8724 - Point3d(408.451, 49.9671, 306.856)...
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea8468 - Point3d(626.566, 186.134, 306.856)...
                          ERROR!
                          [Point3d(0, 0, 0), [#Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea9f70]]
                          Vector3d(-626.566, -186.134, -306.856)
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea80f8 - Point3d(166.294, 262.562, 306.856)...
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea7e28 - Point3d(446.203, -43.8623, 306.856)...
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea7bd0 - Point3d(55.5756, 257.856, 306.856)...
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea7978 - Point3d(115.356, 141.118, 306.856)...
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea7720 - Point3d(139.372, 141.118, 306.856)...
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea74dc - Point3d(48.0672, 203.288, 306.856)...
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea7284 - Point3d(89.6026, 203.288, 306.856)...
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea702c - Point3d(166.34, 114.827, 306.856)...
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea6de8 - Point3d(356.548, 483.582, 306.856)...
                          ERROR!
                          [Point3d(0, 0, 0), [#Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea9f70]]
                          Vector3d(-356.548, -483.582, -306.856)
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea6a78 - Point3d(448.291, 280.224, 306.856)...
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea67bc - Point3d(134.428, 325.04, 306.856)...
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea6500 - Point3d(76.403, 431.175, 306.856)...
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea62a8 - Point3d(620.561, 43.6718, 306.856)...
                          ERROR!
                          [Point3d(0, 0, 0), [#Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea9f70]]
                          Vector3d(-620.561, -43.6718, -306.856)
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea5f38 - Point3d(529.611, -73.3759, 306.856)...
                          ERROR!
                          [Point3d(0, 0, 0), [#Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea9f70]]
                          Vector3d(-529.611, 73.3759, -306.856)
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea5bc8 - Point3d(547.64, 381.779, 306.856)...
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea590c - Point3d(347.374, 357.812, 306.856)...
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea5650 - Point3d(192.506, 404.667, 306.856)...
                          #Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0xfea53f8 - Point3d(292.297, 130.784, 306.856)...`

                          When it detect an error it prints out the return data for raytest and the vector from the ray start point to the hit point.

                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
                            last edited by

                            I almost thought it was rays that hit nothing that failed when I looked at this top-down, but then I noticed two rays that crushed that theory.

                            SU8-raytest 03.png

                            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                            • thomthomT Offline
                              thomthom
                              last edited by

                              hm... It does seem to be of importance if the ray is suppose to hit an entity or not. But there are still deviant results.

                              SU8-raytest 04.png

                              SU8-raytest 05.png

                              SU8-raytest 06.png

                              The rouge rays that should hit the surface below is causing problems, had it not been for them one could have assumed the junk results where non-hits. 😑

                              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                              • thomthomT Offline
                                thomthom
                                last edited by

                                Got it! Looking at if from a fresh angle, literally, it becomes evident what's going on:

                                model.raytest fails when the ray pass through the Ground Level

                                Example 1:
                                Rays that hits entities above Ground Level works correctly, rays that pass through Ground Level returns ORIGIN and a random CPoint as result data.
                                SU8-raytest 07.png

                                Example 2:
                                All rays worked correctly because they hit entities without passing trough Ground Level.
                                SU8-raytest 08.png

                                Example 3:
                                All rays started below Ground Zero, everyone hit because they did not pass Ground Level.
                                SU8-raytest 09.png

                                I've only tested rays that go downwards - not sure how things behave for rays in different directions.
                                It might be possible to write a hack to workaround this. Need to test more cases first.

                                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  Further details:
                                  model.raytest fails when the rays pass through the XY,XZ or YZ plane when there is a CPoint in model.active_entities.

                                  
                                  model = Sketchup.active_model
                                  sel = model.selection
                                  
                                  model.entities.clear!
                                  
                                  pt = Geom;;Point3d.new( 10, 10, 10 )
                                  
                                  puts 'Without CPoints in active_entities;'
                                  [X_AXIS, Y_AXIS, Z_AXIS].each { |v|
                                    ray = [ pt, v ]
                                    p model.raytest( ray )
                                    ray = [ pt, v.reverse ]
                                    p model.raytest( ray )
                                  }
                                  
                                  cp = model.active_entities.add_cpoint( pt )
                                  
                                  puts 'With CPoints in active_entities;'
                                  [X_AXIS, Y_AXIS, Z_AXIS].each { |v|
                                    ray = [ pt, v ]
                                    p model.raytest( ray )
                                    ray = [ pt, v.reverse ]
                                    p model.raytest( ray )
                                  }
                                  
                                  puts 'Done'
                                  
                                  

                                  Resulting data:
                                  Without CPoints in active_entities: nil nil nil nil nil nil With CPoints in active_entities: nil [Point3d(0, 0, 0), [#<Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0x11bc3660>]] nil [Point3d(0, 0, 0), [#<Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0x11bc3660>]] nil [Point3d(0, 0, 0), [#<Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0x11bc3660>]] Done

                                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by

                                    Implemented a workaround to my TT_Lib2: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=30503

                                    I've wrapped it up into a Ray class, but you can extract the workaround from the .test method.


                                    Ray Class from TT_Lib 2.1.1

                                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                    • T Offline
                                      tomasz
                                      last edited by

                                      Thanks Thomas for your efforts! I hope it will be a fix with a high priority.

                                      Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        😞
                                        I just found that my workaround isn't perfect. I still have cases with rays straying away.

                                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        • thomthomT Offline
                                          thomthom
                                          last edited by

                                          SU8-raytest-bug.png

                                          ` cl=sel[0]

                                          #Sketchup::ConstructionLine:0x18b6e6a4
                                          r = model.raytest( [cl.start, cl.end] )
                                          [Point3d(0, 0, 0), [#Sketchup::ConstructionPoint:0x18903324]]`

                                          It doesn't hit any of the model axis planes, but yet it returns ORIGIN and a CPoint. I don't know how to work around this one. Can't find the trigger.


                                          SU8-raytest-bug.skp

                                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                          • daikuD Offline
                                            daiku
                                            last edited by

                                            @thomthom said:

                                            @daiku said:

                                            I can confirm that this bug has broken my scripts as well. I add cpoints based on where the ray interects with a face, and the points get added "out in the weeds", not on the face. CB.

                                            If you cache the points for where you place the CPoints until after you have done all the raytracing, does it work then? (Ensuring there are no CPoints in current context before you start)

                                            Unfortunately, there are CPoints already in the current context when I try to preform the raytest.

                                            Clark Bremer
                                            http://www.northernlightstimberframing.com

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