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    • honoluludesktopH Offline
      honoluludesktop
      last edited by

      Mike, That's a great idea. After discussing the problem with his client, Adam could restate the problem, and post its solution on the forum. He can then refer him to that solution. This way everyone benefits.

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      • BepB Offline
        Bep
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        A FAQ or a questons & answers tread with no names mensiond would be te solution

        Bep van Malde

        "History is written by the winners"

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        • Al HartA Offline
          Al Hart
          last edited by

          Thanks for the replies.

          There seem to be two related sub-topics in this thread:

          1. Is a forum a good place to do technical support?
            (In this case it is a forum only for technical support. so there is no confusion.)

          2. Is it OK to quote from a email when starting a forum posting.

          Here is a recent example. I received an email with this question:

          @unknownuser said:

          I have a photograph of an existing house that we took with a camera. I drew a house with sketchup that I need to insert onto the site photo, and I need to remove the existing house from the photo. Is this something that renderplus can help me with?

          I responded with:

          @unknownuser said:

          I'll post this on our forum and see if any users have any good ideas

          I placed the query on the SCF forum, and got some very valuable responses.
          http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=30163

          Since we prefer to do support on-line rather than by email, if I wanted to ask each person who sends an email whether it was all right to place their request (with no identifying information) on our forum, it would slow down the response process.

          I do respect PM's as private. Since the person is already on the forum, and chose to use a PM, I respect their request for privacy. However, when a person send me an email, and does not request privacy, I am more willing to quote from it to start a forum message.

          I guess I kind of resented the particular email, which prompted me to start this thred, which started out:

          @unknownuser said:

          I would say that I was surprised, but I am not [..] that your program, that I paid for and you don't provide online support for,...

          We, of course, we do provide on-line support on our forum. So his tone got me off on the wrong track.

          Al Hart

          http:wiki.renderplus.comimageseefRender_plus_colored30x30%29.PNG
          IRender nXt from Render Plus

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          • jeff hammondJ Offline
            jeff hammond
            last edited by

            hmm. yeah, i guess if you're quoting emails anonymously with no identifying info and/or files such as skps or pictures etc. then it shouldn't really be a problem to do sans_permission.

            personally i'd be ok if you did that (the anonymous thing) with a mail of mine but at the same time, i can understand someone else being upset by it.

            dotdotdot

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            • Al HartA Offline
              Al Hart
              last edited by

              Especially someone who's email reads like this:

              @unknownuser said:

              Your company makes the [...] software and yet you post the [...] message to a forum instead of giving me a solution. This is [...].
              I don't want a [...] discussion. I want a solution so that I didn't waste my money and my time with your software.

              @unknownuser said:

              personally i'd be ok if you did that (the anonymous thing) with a mail of mine but at the same time, i can understand someone else being upset by it.

              Al Hart

              http:wiki.renderplus.comimageseefRender_plus_colored30x30%29.PNG
              IRender nXt from Render Plus

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              • mitcorbM Offline
                mitcorb
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                If the ellipsis in brackets [...] represents some impolite, profane terminology and comes from someone in a professional context, then I have a problem with that. Plain and simple- that is not very professional. They appear to be taking out all of their frustrations, including those from other sources, on you.
                I cannot address the matter of publish or not publish an email. This would either be a stated policy or not.

                I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                • Al HartA Offline
                  Al Hart
                  last edited by

                  @mitcorb said:

                  If the ellipsis in brackets [...] represents some impolite, profane terminology and comes from someone in a professional context, then I have a problem with that. Plain and simple- that is not very professional. They appear to be taking out all of their frustrations, including those from other sources, on you.
                  I cannot address the matter of publish or not publish an email. This would either be a stated policy or not.

                  Yes - the [...] represent the worst imaginable profanities. I decided to reply to each email politely.

                  I will add a note that we reserve the right to publish support questions on our forum to our support page. But I suspect this person never found our support page. However, it does protect me when someone gets mad about seeing their words in print.

                  Al Hart

                  http:wiki.renderplus.comimageseefRender_plus_colored30x30%29.PNG
                  IRender nXt from Render Plus

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                  • olisheaO Offline
                    olishea
                    last edited by

                    Al its very simple, just ask first if it's OK. 95% of people will agree unless they are feeling particularly selfish.

                    Now you are copying and pasting his emails again which will surely piss him off even more!! just stop!! step away from the keyboard!

                    oli

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                    • jeff hammondJ Offline
                      jeff hammond
                      last edited by

                      there's somewhat of a mixup in this thread though.. the thread is basically talking about right vs. wrong in posting emails on a support forum..

                      the customer complaint has nothing to do with that though. (if i'm reading it correctly)

                      he's saying " i paid for this [...] product and i want the [...] attention i feel i deserve.. i demand some [...] help by you, the owner and/or company representative.. not some [...] [...] on a [...] internet forum"

                      i don't think he/she really cares that his email was made public.. he's bummed that he feels he's being ignored (and hey, maybe rightly so.. but i don't know all the particulars to say that as fact)

                      [edit] -
                      it's like buying a computer that won't boot then asking the company for advice on dealing with it but they tell you to go ask someone on the internet how to fix it.

                      dotdotdot

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                      • Al HartA Offline
                        Al Hart
                        last edited by

                        I think I will change the word 'forum' to 'help desk'.

                        If forum has more of a social con nation, then 'help desk' may sound more professional.

                        (The thread was originally started to ask if it was ok to provide a forum for support.)

                        For the record, we immediately responded to the original query and asked for a .SKP file so we could try to reproduce the problem. We received a file, and have reproduced the problem. However, with the time pressures oh the SketchUp Basecamp and the long weekend we may not be able to resolve the problem until next week.

                        @unknownuser said:

                        there's somewhat of a mixup in this thread though.. the thread is basically talking about right vs. wrong in posting emails on a support forum..

                        the customer complaint has nothing to do with that though. (if i'm reading it correctly)

                        he's saying " i paid for this [...] product and i want the [...] attention i feel i deserve.. i demand some [...] help by you, the owner and/or company representative.. not some [...] [...] on a [...] internet forum"

                        i don't think he/she really cares that his email was made public.. he's bummed that he feels he's being ignored (and hey, maybe rightly so.. but i don't know all the particulars to say that as fact)

                        [edit] -
                        it's like buying a computer that won't boot then asking the company for advice on dealing with it but they tell you to go ask someone on the internet how to fix it.

                        Al Hart

                        http:wiki.renderplus.comimageseefRender_plus_colored30x30%29.PNG
                        IRender nXt from Render Plus

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