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    • P Offline
      panpanndundu
      last edited by

      nice plugin..thanx you...

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      • V Offline
        vidy
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        @thomthom said:

        I'm currently looking into some UV mapping tool.

        hmm.. this is been waited for so long too.. ๐Ÿ‘
        before i was count on Whaat UV tool, but i don't know, lately we can't get it to work and there is no confirmation from Whaat regarding to the problem.. ๐Ÿ˜ข

        i hope this one could be really solved this issue. ๐ŸŽ‰

        regards,

        still so much to learn..

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          pdwyer
          last edited by

          This looks like it's going to help me a lot, (THANKS) I'm wondering about what it's telling me. In this particular group its says I have a mess but I'm not 100% sure why. So Orange is a hole and Red is an error? what kind of error? Looking at the pic below, what should I be looking to fix?

          solid problems.png

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          • J Offline
            Jim
            last edited by

            Check for internal faces, for a start. They are usually easier to find than small holes.

            Stray edges, also but they can be harder to find especially if small. Todd's StrayLines is an excellent tool for finding those.

            Hi

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
              last edited by

              By the looks of it I'm guessing it's internal faces.
              I'm adding it to my todo list to update this so it gives more info to exactly what the highlight error is.

              Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
                last edited by

                How about a plugin that actually fixes these glitches instead?
                ๐Ÿ˜‰

                (Yes, I know, I know, we discussed it back in August already...)
                ๐Ÿ˜„

                Gai...

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
                  last edited by

                  ...yea... it's there... somewhere on the list... ...the very long list... ๐Ÿ˜ž

                  Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  • GaieusG Offline
                    Gaieus
                    last edited by

                    Guy posted it in its new topic here:
                    http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=33471

                    Gai...

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                      GWD
                      last edited by

                      This Plugin try to fix problems with groups that suppose to be solids but don't show up like a solid in SU.

                      fixSolid fix the following problems:
                      * remove single edges
                      * remove separate faces
                      * remove edges between coplanar faces
                      * remove innerfaces
                      * remove all edges with only 1 face connected (RISKY FIX)

                      Usage: 1. Select solid
                      2. Right-Click Context-Menu. If the solid is broken the option 'FIX SOLID'
                      is present. If the option isn't present there are no problems with
                      the solid.
                      3. Select 'FIX SOLID'
                      4. You get the option to do a risky fix. If you choose a risky fix
                      it is possible that a part of the solid wil be deleted. This action can
                      be undone with the normal SU undo function. The risky fix try to fix
                      all problems, the normal fix only fixes problem with no risk.

                      Download from: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=33471

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                      • Chris FullmerC Offline
                        Chris Fullmer
                        last edited by

                        WHat about TIGs plugin that does this? I posted a link to it on the previous page. Has anyone tried it? Does it work well? Here's the link again:

                        http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=143720

                        Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                        All my Plugins I've written

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                          driven
                          last edited by

                          hi Thom,

                          I've turned on 'BackEdges', coloured the enclosed faces and added a section plane to highlight 'enclosed faces', could this be added..... or maybe highlight enclosed edges, as deleting these is the remedy....
                          just some thoughts while testing.

                          btw, the return key as well as tab scrolls thru your views on the mac and getting back to the select tool doesn't work with the space bar when using...

                          keep up the good work

                          john

                          could this be auto generated within the script?

                          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
                            last edited by

                            @driven said:

                            I've turned on 'BackEdges', coloured the enclosed faces and added a section plane to highlight 'enclosed faces', could this be added..... or maybe highlight enclosed edges, as deleting these is the remedy....
                            just some thoughts while testing.

                            I avoided using material as I didn't want to clutter people's models. Removing materials requires some akward workarounds and I didn't want to get into that. Section planes are the same, need to apply some silly hack to add them to the scene ... and I don't think one can even activate them via Ruby. ๐Ÿ˜ž
                            It should be highlighting the edges though, while the tool is active. you're not seeing that?

                            @driven said:

                            btw, the return key as well as tab scrolls thru your views on the mac and getting back to the select tool doesn't work with the space bar when using...

                            Yes, Tab and Return allows you to navigate to the various areas (I want to make a UI for that.) though it should not be interfering with the Space key at all. I have no problems using it while I use the tool. ... ??

                            Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              driven
                              last edited by

                              @thomthom said:

                              I avoided using material as I didn't want to clutter people's models.
                              fair point, but what about using a 'style' set,that's purged when your done?

                              @thomthom said:

                              Section planes....(edit) I don't think one can even activate them via Ruby. ๐Ÿ˜ž
                              it seems to me that the api lets you, but I'm no coder...

                              @thomthom said:

                              It should be highlighting the edges though, while the tool is active. you're not seeing that?
                              sorry, it is highlighting the multi-face edges, it's the enclosed/internal (to volume) edges I was wondering about

                              @thomthom said:

                              (I want to make a UI for that.)
                              I'm just airing ideas 'for that', I've tested/used all the pre-existing repair-aid scripts (TIG's,VW,CadSpan,etc.) and currently use bits from each, in a rather untidy workflow.

                              we stop for Xmas next week and I'll try and organise my thoughts a bit better,

                              I like what you've done with this so far...

                              john

                              learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                              • thomthomT Offline
                                thomthom
                                last edited by

                                @driven said:

                                it seems to me that the api lets you, but I'm no coder...

                                The API only let you get and set the position of section planes. No way to add or activate them. ๐Ÿ˜ž

                                @driven said:

                                sorry, it is highlighting the multi-face edges, it's the enclosed/internal (to volume) edges I was wondering about

                                Oh, detect geometry inside solids. hmm... Not quite sure how one would do that... It's a thinker...

                                @driven said:

                                fair point, but what about using a 'style' set,that's purged when your done?

                                The problem is that one can't assign a style to just a small set of edges - it#s all or nothing.
                                But, with a new UI one could possibly have a checkbox that would toggle whether the invalid geometry is marked with a material.

                                Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  GWD
                                  last edited by

                                  @driven said:

                                  @thomthom said:

                                  I avoided using material as I didn't want to clutter people's models.
                                  fair point, but what about using a 'style' set,that's purged when your done?

                                  @thomthom said:

                                  Section planes....(edit) I don't think one can even activate them via Ruby. ๐Ÿ˜ž
                                  it seems to me that the api lets you, but I'm no coder...

                                  @thomthom said:

                                  It should be highlighting the edges though, while the tool is active. you're not seeing that?
                                  sorry, it is highlighting the multi-face edges, it's the enclosed/internal (to volume) edges I was wondering about

                                  @thomthom said:

                                  (I want to make a UI for that.)
                                  I'm just airing ideas 'for that', I've tested/used all the pre-existing repair-aid scripts (TIG's,VW,CadSpan,etc.) and currently use bits from each, in a rather untidy workflow.

                                  we stop for Xmas next week and I'll try and organise my thoughts a bit better,

                                  I like what you've done with this so far...

                                  john

                                  John, did you already test my new fixSolid? http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=33471

                                  Guy

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                                    eliasandraos
                                    last edited by

                                    Lots of time saved. Thanks so much.

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                                    • jason_marantoJ Offline
                                      jason_maranto
                                      last edited by

                                      I just wanted to say this is the best plugin ever -- I find myself using some plugins every once in a while and a few very frequently, but this plugin instantly became something I used 20-30 times a session.

                                      Thank-you sooooo much for making this -- I didn't think I needed it but it has saved me dozens of hours already in just a few weeks... why they would include the solids tools in 8 without including this function I don't know but for me it is now an essential tool.

                                      Best,
                                      Jason.

                                      I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        ๐Ÿ˜„ cheers!

                                        As I've begun to use the Solid Tools in SU8 more and more I find myself relying on it more often. And I found that I need to allow it to work within the group, component one wants to fix. As going out of the group your fixing to inspect it is just too awkward.

                                        Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        • jgbJ Offline
                                          jgb
                                          last edited by

                                          I've been using Solid Inspector for about 3 weeks now, and only a few days ago discovered the <tab> key, arrow key and <enter> functions. Never thought to look down. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                                          I use it so much I have the "S" key as a shortcut. ๐Ÿ‘

                                          But a most unintuitive aspect of SI is when it finds and highlights the problem(s). ๐Ÿ‘Ž

                                          Generally you want to delete the offender entity(s).
                                          The process is to toggle amongst the highlights to choose one, which is now indicated by a red circle. โ—
                                          Press <Enter> to zoom in on it.
                                          Place the white arrow cursor on the highlighted entity.
                                          Right click and select "Edit group". If you click "erase" here, it will delete the whole group.
                                          Keeping the cursor on the highlighted entity, Right Click and select "erase". That will delete the single cursor-ed entity only. Either 1 line or 1 face, but not the faces highlighted perimeter lines.
                                          And that leaves you in a form of limbo. ๐ŸŽ‰
                                          Now you have to select the "edit menu" and "close group" to get back into SI for the next problem.

                                          Since 99.9% of the time you want to simply delete the offending entity, why not simply;
                                          Place the cursor on it and just double click to delete the red highlighted entity.
                                          Then you toggle to the next.

                                          This obviates the wish for an auto-fix which is complex and where a simple deletion may not be the fix one needs to do.

                                          One other thing; when SI encounters a true solid (no errors) please say so, maybe a green circle around the group/comp. But do come out of the white arrow select mode.


                                          jgb

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                                            Alencar
                                            last edited by

                                            Dear Thomthom

                                            is amazing how a simple program can solve such a complex issue and recurrent.

                                            this is brilliant

                                            thank you, very much.

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