sketchucation logo sketchucation
    • Login
    ℹ️ Licensed Extensions | FredoBatch, ElevationProfile, FredoSketch, LayOps, MatSim and Pic2Shape will require license from Sept 1st More Info

    Some Council Houses!

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Gallery
    38 Posts 18 Posters 3.8k Views 18 Watching
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • W Offline
      watkins
      last edited by

      Dear Oliver,

      My comments were made slightly tongue in cheek, but only slightly. We have some really bad examples of council housing in Oxford, such as Blackbird Leys, and so I tend to rail against featureless shoe boxes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackbird_Leys).

      Talk me through this would you Oliver. You start with the same land, the same bricks and mortar and the same (or similar) man-days of builders effort, so why do many (not all) council houses look so dreary and featureless. When inner city building land is so scarce and costly, why is the roof space totally ignored (mansard roof?). Is it all down to the number of units on a particular site, the cost per unit, and the property developer trying to maintain his profit margin high by going for the cheapest build possible.

      One last, and quite controversial question. Do beautiful presentations and renders promote bad planning and architecture by creating an illusion of a model community and a village-like atmosphere? Discuss.

      Kind regards,
      Bob

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        Render = OK
        Design = ???

        Who was it that thought that making the gable-ends of some small articulated forms 'lopsided' made them look 'nice' ?
        Forms should 'follow function'... and also basic 'structural rules'... and common-sense...
        A gabled-roof is at its most functional if it's 'symmetrical'... UNLESS there is some underlying reason that it should not be so [we see none πŸ˜’ ]...
        "Occam's Razor" = don't make something more complex than it needs to be...

        Render scores 7
        Design scores 3

        TIG

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • RichardR Offline
          Richard
          last edited by

          Oli???

          Mate in your last posted pic there is some crooke mapping of the entry tiles, mate this is not like you!!!! πŸ˜‰

          [BUILTBRAND.COM.AU](http://builtbrand.com.au/)

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • olisheaO Offline
            olishea
            last edited by

            I know they are pretty damn ugly but really I can't do anything about it. I was literally handed drawings and told to "render this!" only had a day to model it. The roof pitches make me cringe.

            Cheers for pointing that out Richard! πŸ‘

            @unknownuser said:

            creating an illusion of a model community and a village-like atmosphere

            well if you got that impression my work here is done!! 🀣

            TIG I agree entirely, but like I say it's out of my hands. If you cannot justify it then it shouldn't be there. thanks for the 7 out of 10! it could be worse! πŸ˜„

            oli

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              From me a 7/10 is pretty good πŸ˜‰

              TIG

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • D Offline
                DzineTech
                last edited by

                Minor observation: the streetlight should be at the rear of the pavement next to the 50mm pin kerb

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • michaliszissiouM Offline
                  michaliszissiou
                  last edited by

                  7/10, 8/10, 9/10, then 1/5 2/5 etc etc...
                  We are reaching the bottom now, wow 🀣

                  Great work oli as always. πŸ‘

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • olisheaO Offline
                    olishea
                    last edited by

                    cheers michalis, i just wish the subject had more balls!

                    @unknownuser said:

                    Minor observation: the streetlight should be at the rear of the pavement next to the 50mm pin kerb

                    yeah you would think that wouldn't you, its an existing lamppost, dunno why's it's like that.

                    oli

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • olisheaO Offline
                      olishea
                      last edited by

                      another site, another nightmare πŸ˜•

                      http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/olishea/image1-3.png

                      http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/olishea/image2.png

                      oli

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • W Offline
                        watkins
                        last edited by

                        Dear Oliver,

                        In reality there is going to be at least two cars per household. What would that look like?

                        Kind regards,
                        Bob

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • olisheaO Offline
                          olishea
                          last edited by

                          another site. difficult topography but 'archiland tools',' drape construction points' and 'triangulate points' were life savers! thanks all ruby developers!! πŸ‘

                          http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/olishea/1-8.jpg

                          oli

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • C Offline
                            cadmunkey
                            last edited by

                            @olishea said:

                            another site. difficult topography but 'archiland tools',' drape construction points' and 'triangulate points' were life savers! thanks all ruby developers!! πŸ‘

                            Nice renders Oli but goddamn, council houses never look any better do they?? Ouch! Designer needs to get some different sources of inspiration or something.

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • olisheaO Offline
                              olishea
                              last edited by

                              tell me about it 🀒 bloody doll house! thanks for commenting. πŸ‘

                              look at the view out of the ground floor window....brick retaining wall haha

                              oli

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • F Offline
                                fymoro
                                last edited by

                                Oli,
                                The last images are really nice, Congrats. About the design, It is much better than what I have seen in Luton (After two years there)...OMG!!! terrible architect... πŸ˜‰
                                In France It's sometime terrible too, but looks more like "push-pull boxes"... πŸ˜’

                                http://www.thearender.com/cms/index.php/news/featured-artists/137-frederic-yves-moro.html

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • pyrolunaP Offline
                                  pyroluna
                                  last edited by

                                  @olishea said:

                                  neo vernacular pastiche architecture.....

                                  πŸ˜†
                                  cheers for concatenation of terminology

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • jo-keJ Offline
                                    jo-ke
                                    last edited by

                                    very good renders. They give a perfect impression of the project.

                                    http://www.zz7.de

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • olisheaO Offline
                                      olishea
                                      last edited by

                                      lol cant think of any other way of saying it, its technically correct!

                                      fred: a push/pull box sounds quite appealing haha!

                                      cheers for commenting!

                                      Here are the final images, 2 of them are similar to give the client choice of angles. I wasn't completely sure what they wanted! I also threw in a birds eye view!

                                      Hidden Geometry view:

                                      http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/olishea/hl.jpg

                                      http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/olishea/1_final_small.jpg

                                      http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/olishea/2_final_small.jpg

                                      http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/olishea/3_final_small.jpg

                                      http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/olishea/4_final_small.jpg

                                      oli

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • O Offline
                                        Olivier
                                        last edited by

                                        Surprising renders

                                        Little problem : your shadows are on the same side of the sun. The sun comes from the right as it can be seen on the trees, and the shadows on the ground and the house go also to the right at the opposite of the shadows of the trees.

                                        Maybee two suns on this planet ?

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • olisheaO Offline
                                          olishea
                                          last edited by

                                          haha yeah the trees aren't great. i kept forgetting to mirror them for each scene. cheers

                                          oli

                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • F Offline
                                            FoXar
                                            last edited by

                                            Wow these look outstanding! Very, very well done, the birds view rocks πŸ‘

                                            Cheers! ;D

                                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • 1
                                            • 2
                                            • 2 / 2
                                            • First post
                                              Last post
                                            Buy SketchPlus
                                            Buy SUbD
                                            Buy WrapR
                                            Buy eBook
                                            Buy Modelur
                                            Buy Vertex Tools
                                            Buy SketchCuisine
                                            Buy FormFonts

                                            Advertisement