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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
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      Would be very interesting if someone found a way to hook this IDE into SU so one could step through code and profile.

      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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        driven
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        cheers for that thomthom,

        the resources on the link, I have all those and more, but I can't work out how to point the editor at them, there's to many ways that might be right, or all be wrong....

        you can point to specific Ruby versions, helper Gems, API's etc., which I have a choice of on Mac, but I want to set it up so they still work on PC's

        and so we can co-work, on a single script direct from the editor, over platforms/time and space....

        The reason I've gone for this one is it looks very good for WD input as well.

        john

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          driven
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          @thomthom said:

          Would be very interesting if someone found a way to hook this IDE into SU so one could step through code and profile.

          I think you can with this, that's what I'm trying to do...
          your Template with defaults

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            driven
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            the thing about setting SU as the framework is we can filter non-working methods and add custom one at source

            learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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              @driven said:

              the resources on the link, I have all those and more, but I can't work out how to point the editor at them, there's to many ways that might be right, or all be wrong....

              I've not used this editor - so I'm not sure what you mean by pointing the editor to them?

              @driven said:

              you can point to specific Ruby versions, helper Gems, API's etc., which I have a choice of on Mac, but I want to set it up so they still work on PC's

              On PC the ruby version is 1.8.0 - wonder if it reports a slightly different version on OSX..?

              (somewhat offtopic - but how did you set up this editor for Ruby? I only see RubyRails. And trying to click on Get It for any plugin does nothing.)

              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                driven
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                Not off topic at all, unless someone is already using it , I think hammering out common ground is good...

                it has built in messaging and external user code input....
                this?

                and thisTemplates.jpg

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                • thomthomT Offline
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                  I installed the plain studio. Did you install the RadRails?
                  If so - can one disable the Rails part of it? So when coding in Ruby one does not get code insight for Rails?

                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                    driven
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                    I did instal a couple of the plugins

                    the Quantum DataBase is a plugin which I think can be set as a repositry
                    .xml formating

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                      driven
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                      yes,
                      RadRails plugin after studio

                      rudy is standalone

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                        driven
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                        pointing where you want.jpg

                        I'll convert your template and apply it to something as a test...

                        I wish the forum had cut and paste for attachments....

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
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                          what did you do when it asked for an Ruby installation?

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                            MartinRinehart
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                            I'm a veteran of both Eclipse and NetBeans and highly recommend both for large projects. Haven't seen the benefit of trying either for Ruby plugins.

                            I don't know of any progress on the polylingual problem. In Java, you could use HTML in the JavaDoc, but the editor didn't really get the "language switch here" message. Maybe it's gotten better in the last couple years.

                            This problem is taken to the extreme in WebDialog work. My current project has one file mixing Ruby, JavaScript, HTML and CSS. If you find a tool that will do syntax highlighting for something like this, do let us all know!

                            Author, Edges to Rubies - The Complete SketchUp Tutorial at http://www.MartinRinehart.com/models/tutorial.

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                              thomthom
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                              My TT_Lib library is growing and could really benefit from an IDE. And also is the Vertex Edit plugin I'm working on - which I sorely miss profiling for.

                              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                thomthom
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                                How does it work with Aptana and setting up a project in the Plugins folder?
                                Can I create a project which includes the loader .rb in my plugins folder and then the accompanying folder?

                                I tried some other editors before, but they'd insist in adding all .rb files in the plugins folder.

                                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                  driven
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                                  @Martin I was going to PM this to you as I think it does all that+ more, and being open source also means gaps can be filled... by you clever ones....

                                  @Thomas, I think you set up the project in your home directory with your sketchup ruby in /Plugins folder and it gets updated as you go along...

                                  Martin, Dan, Jim, Todd, TIG, Fredo, TBD, Alex, Scott,,,,,,,ect,,,,,,,, please try it out, your assistance would be hugely beneficial..
                                  EDIT: and I should also plead to AdamB for his Mac insight as well
                                  This is not a mutually exclusive list it's groveling to ALL and any

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                                    driven
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                                    This is where I read about it and may answer some questions for the more advanced....http://www.cherny.com/webdev/91/code-text-editors-for-web-development

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                                    • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                      Chris Fullmer
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                                      I have to admit that I do not understand what an IDE does over just using Notepad++ to write scripts? What is all this extra functionality that we keep talking about?

                                      Chris

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                                        @chris fullmer said:

                                        I have to admit that I do not understand what an IDE does over just using Notepad++ to write scripts? What is all this extra functionality that we keep talking about?

                                        Chris

                                        IDE usually allow you to hook a debugger to your code, so you can set breakpoints and step through code, evaluate variable values live and profile your code to find where the choking points are.
                                        They also usually keep track of your methods and classes which will appear in lists - and the better ones extract your documentation comments so when you start typing the name of a method you defined the auto-complete will suggest your own methods (not just the standard ruby ones) and also display your own documentation comments.
                                        And lots more in terms of keeping track of your files etc. Usually more useful for larger projects - but I have some plugins where I'd really like an intelligent IDE instead of just simple syntax colouring.

                                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                          driven
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                                          @chris fullmer said:

                                          just using Notepad++ to write scripts?
                                          Chris

                                          my recent endeavors to find the mysterious Mac 'bug' that appears to affect some scripts and not others and some Macs and not others, led me to a number of blogs about MS'Dos' debris causing issues, when I cleaned and reformatted using Unix Line Delimiters as suggested (as apposed to PC or Mac specific) some of the script worked without additional work, while there seemingly identical originals still didn't...

                                          So I started looking for a powerful cross platform alternative to what I was using and free, open-source seemed sensible.

                                          the problem lays in setting them up so they are as easy to use as the less complex ones when starting out, but are readily expanded as you pick up, mix in other languages etc...

                                          This appears to meet my criteria, but maybe I should have an easy start list at the top of the thread that can be added to over time??

                                          Give it a go, my first tip is Download Studio first, then let it download Rad Rails, which also contains RUBY, then set ruby prefs from there.

                                          @Martin-is this what you mean?http://www.vimeo.com/6885985

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                                          • Dan RathbunD Offline
                                            Dan Rathbun
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                                            @driven said:

                                            ... when I cleaned and reformatted using Unix Line Delimiters as suggested (as apposed to PC or Mac specific) some of the script worked without additional work, while there seemingly identical originals still didn't...

                                            So Notepad++ has 3 options for EOL (which is apparentley auto set on install for the platform the user is on.) On my PC, it was set to 'Windows'.

                                            The other options are 'Mac' and 'UNIX'.

                                            IF UNIX EOLs work on Mac, how does it work for Ruby on a PC??

                                            I'm not here much anymore.

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