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    • K Offline
      KXI System
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      Double here man!

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        charly2008
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        Hi,

        Have been working again on the details. In view of the floor plan I was thought that the balcony may have only a little overlap because it is based on The columns.

        Karl


        Mottoni.jpg


        Mottoni1.jpg


        Mottoni2.jpg

        He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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        • B Offline
          Biggwin
          last edited by

          So here is my first attempt... pretty new to SU 😄


          Muttoni2.png

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          • C Offline
            cadmunkey
            last edited by

            So who has the entrance correct? 2 of you have drawn it quite projected with rows of columns and 1 of you has drawn it as tho it hardly projects at all. Interesting stuff tho, great to see old blueprints come to life in 3d.

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              MtnArch
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              KXI - Could you post where you found your background? That is a really nice one!

              Highest Regards,

              Alan T. Hendry, RA
              Architect

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                MtnArch
                last edited by

                Also, my guess is that Karl (Charly2008) is the closest to being correct - though I think the top hipped section steps back in line with the main entry to give more prominence to the entabulature gable.

                But it's just a guess ...

                Highest Regards,

                Alan T. Hendry, RA
                Architect

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                • K Offline
                  KXI System
                  last edited by

                  @mtnarch said:

                  KXI - Could you post where you found your background? That is a really nice one!

                  I'm not sure where I got that one... maybe its built in?

                  Also I think Karl is wrong (no offense), the drawing put little circles that I interpreted as pillars. Then therefore the pillars were supporting a roof, its a difficult and very old plan. I'm just having trouble modeling plans from my house and its just 10 years old!

                  I'm feeling a bit of remorse with this project, I'll revisit this one.

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                    archytextural
                    last edited by

                    I think the drawing is showing the ballistrades along the railing that goes up the stairs, so that's what the circles are. But that's just my interpretation.

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                    • K Offline
                      KXI System
                      last edited by

                      Should we have a discussion on the plans on a different thread? Because I'm re-doing this project and I don't want to get it wrong.

                      Getting the perfect sig is hard...

                      Google it!

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                        charly2008
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                        The most difficult is the portal front because there no side view and the drawing is too vague.


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                          archytextural
                          last edited by

                          Charly I'd say based on what the plan and elevation are showing, yours is the more accurate interp. Howver the main columns at the entry way look more varied in the elevation, other than that it's looking good.

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                            charly2008
                            last edited by

                            Some more details.


                            Mottoni1.jpg

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                              KXI System
                              last edited by

                              I tried your view and I found out this:
                              Villa-Mod.jpg

                              I'm guessing the real question is the upper archway a window or a door?
                              Because if its a door then I'm correct with pillars on the stairs.
                              But if its a window then its your version.

                              So which is it?

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                                pbacot
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                                Hi,

                                Good work, all of you. Thanks for posting. This is interesting.

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                                I'd vote for Charly coming closest (and KXI latest drawing). There can be a door with a shallow balcony. A common device. Also I don't think the upper block of rooms comes forward of the main front wall at all.

                                Peter

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                                  KXI System
                                  last edited by

                                  I haven't thought of that possibility, so your suggesting a shallow balcony - about barely or no standing room - and the higher arch is a door size window decoration? Interesting I'll play with that.

                                  BTW, I'm still looking for those textures, post or PM me if you have suggestions. I'll also be looking for a few components to ahem "slay this beast".

                                  Getting the perfect sig is hard...

                                  Google it!

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                                    Biggwin
                                    last edited by

                                    The middle arrow shows that the main wall is missing here and makes it look receded, the second arrow points to doors in the recessions

                                    Totally redone version... the stair rails still need a lot of work and I believe the 3rd story has a small balcony so a door needs to be there!


                                    The middle arrow shows that the main wall is missing here and makes it look receded, the second arrow points to doors in the recessions


                                    Totally redone version...

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                                      KXI System
                                      last edited by

                                      Hey Big, have you've read our discussion? We concluded that there was a small porch over the stairway. But just because theres a porch that doesn't mean that theres a doorway. Its common for architects not to have access to the porch, and its becoming a bit more common now. You could dig deeper and do research about it, but for now it remain optional.

                                      This is becoming more like a community project than my own personal one.

                                      I tried to catch up with the detail, this is what I came up with:

                                      Villa-Mod.jpg
                                      Villa-Mod2.jpg

                                      A bit more work then its time for some MAJIAK!

                                      Getting the perfect sig is hard...

                                      Google it!

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                                        pbacot
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                                        With a little tweaking of your SU style, KXI, it could be a 3d version of the source sketch.

                                        I don't think those end columns are there, just the pilasters in plan, but you're the ones modeling so it's your choice, of course. I think the railing piers are shown in plan, and come out darker in the sketch, making them look like columns.

                                        I was curious about what the elevation sketch could be inferring by the column treatment. Found a picture, from Palladio's Villa Sarego:

                                        http://www.unav.es/ha/006-VILL/palladio-villas/Sarego-sofia-009.jpg

                                        but the sketch clearly shows variation in widths as in these columns from a later period:

                                        http://www.lookingatbuildings.org.uk/typo3temp/pics/y_bf2ed4ee6f.jpg

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                                        • K Offline
                                          KXI System
                                          last edited by

                                          Do you always have to shoot me down Pbacot?

                                          Well I'm going on vacation soon so I won't be able to work on this project for a (long) while. Any others that want to attempt this project may. So I say to you all in advance:

                                          http://forums.sketchucation.com/download/file.php?id=50624

                                          Getting the perfect sig is hard...

                                          Google it!

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                                            pbacot
                                            last edited by

                                            @kxi system said:

                                            Do you always have to shoot me down Pbacot?

                                            KXI,

                                            I don't mean to do anything like that. Just offering ideas--without actually having to do the work! Maybe I'll take a stab at the entrance to show what I think. Though I have enough modeling projects I can do. I think you're doing great.

                                            I am not a Palladio expert, or any sort of expert. I have a "feeling" however, that the projection of the upper level above the entry balcony is not great, partly from the sketch and the amount of span the side columns you show would be carrying, both physically and visually. I see the pilasters at the corners of the entry portico working with the central columns, although I don't quite understand the pilasters coming forward out of line with the rest.

                                            Hard to say what the source sketch is for, since it doesn't seem comprehensive at all. I guess that it is an "outline" of desired drawings, for the draftsmen to follow, filling-in with their own knowledge, to be published in much more detail.

                                            Peter

                                            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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