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    EarthMover
    last edited by 2 Mar 2010, 13:44

    Playing around with the new Vue 8.1 Infinite as, like everyone else, I'm pretty inspired looking through the amazing renders done by Solo and a few others. I'm kind of surprised to find that the render engine feels pretty much the same as it did in previous releases.....slow and grainy. I see that some others are achieving some pretty grain free results within reasonable render times, but I can't for the life of me figure out what settings I'm missing to make this happen. I find I can get a smoother result when increasing the quality boost in the light settings, but this sends my render times through the roof when using GR. Is there an anti-alias adjustment somewhere that I'm missing? Would someone like to share their render settings or give a brief rundown on the critical adjustments that are the most import for speed vs. quality in Vue? In It would be much appreciated.

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      pugz1983
      last edited by 2 Mar 2010, 14:59

      Hi Adam,

      I to have been playing with Vue for a few weeks now, and I can tell you that it's all in the Lighting.
      GR is the best setting but also the slowest one. I've attached a handy tutorial on render settings in Vue. Hope this wel help you. I always prepare scene in Vue till I like it and then I render It in the external render. Its faster then the internal render.

      Greetz From Holland


      Vue render Settings

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        EarthMover
        last edited by 2 Mar 2010, 15:08

        Sweet Twan, THANK YOU!!!! That is a very informative tutorial. I was noticing that a lot of my grain issues where more severe in area where I have a bump map applied. For bump maps, would you recommend a desaturated map or a normal map? I'm wondering if a slight blur applied to my bump maps might help without having to boost a lot of texture AA. I am going to run through my test scene with those settings and see how it helps.

        Thanks again.

        3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
        Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
        Content Creator at Skapeup

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          pugz1983
          last edited by 2 Mar 2010, 15:39

          I've noticed the same graininess with bumped area's. Bumps and discplacement in Vue are best done with normal maps. Just check the displacement block in bump settings and load your normal map in the function editor. I use Pixplant 2 to make normal maps. make sure u set to object paramatric, for accurate results. Here are some good links for tutorials.

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          http://www.renderosity.com ( search tutorial section On Vue )

          Greetz

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            EarthMover
            last edited by 2 Mar 2010, 15:51

            Cool thanks. I use Pixplant 2 as well. I'll give it a go!

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              solo
              last edited by 2 Mar 2010, 15:57

              Great stuff.

              I also use Pixplant, I think it's the most valuable piece of software for creating normal, displacement and specmaps which work with most advanced render solutions, as well as Imagesynth for creating seamless blended textures.

              Great in depth tutorial Twan, I'm still using Vue 7.4, I felt no need to upgrade as the version I have has everything I need, unless one of my clients decides to build hotels on the Moon that is as version 8 seems to be geared towards planets and stuff that I do not need.

              http://www.solos-art.com

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                EarthMover
                last edited by 2 Mar 2010, 16:47

                @solo said:

                Great stuff.

                I also use Pixplant, I think it's the most valuable piece of software for creating normal, displacement and specmaps which work with most advanced render solutions, as well as Imagesynth for creating seamless blended textures.

                Great in depth tutorial Twan, I'm still using Vue 7.4, I felt no need to upgrade as the version I have has everything I need, unless one of my clients decides to build hotels on the Moon that is as version 8 seems to be geared towards planets and stuff that I do not need.

                Haha....that's probably Richard Branson's next project.

                With version 8 I've noticed a huge increase in stability. I had a lot of problems with 6 and 7 crashing on me quite frequently, but with version 8, I haven't had a single crash as of yet.

                Pete, how do you typically handle bumps in Vue? I've always loaded the map in the bump slot of the "Basic" material editor, but tried Twan's suggestion of putting a normal map in the displacement section of the Advanced editor and it seems to be working (still rendering) but also seems to add to render time. Also do you typically use AA for texture maps?

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                Content Creator at Skapeup

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                  solo
                  last edited by 2 Mar 2010, 17:07

                  Adam, the moment Richard Branson commissions me to work on his new Galactic hotel I will get the newest version of Vue...that's a promise (hold me to it) 😄

                  I handle bumps on a need for need basis, I do not put bump on everything, I avoid bump on distant objects, use the image mapped default bump (in function editor) for mid distance and then use my own bump maps that either come with the texture if bought (like arroway textures) or my own Pixplant created normals for close textures.

                  http://www.solos-art.com

                  If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                    EarthMover
                    last edited by 2 Mar 2010, 17:15

                    That makes complete sense Pete, thanks. For foreground bumps, do you typically plug them in through the basic editor bump slot?

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                    Content Creator at Skapeup

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                      solo
                      last edited by 2 Mar 2010, 17:49

                      No, I use the function editor as I normally tweak them as needed.

                      http://www.solos-art.com

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                        pugz1983
                        last edited by 2 Mar 2010, 17:55

                        I agree with the tips Pete gave you. also decrease the ammount of bump to 0.1 or less for good results. Working with normals with displacement increases the render time. I've read that the new version. 8.4 has improvements in render time for displacement.

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                          emfemsem
                          last edited by 23 Sept 2010, 14:34

                          @pugz1983 said:

                          Hi Adam,

                          I to have been playing with Vue for a few weeks now, and I can tell you that it's all in the Lighting.
                          GR is the best setting but also the slowest one. I've attached a handy tutorial on render settings in Vue. Hope this wel help you. I always prepare scene in Vue till I like it and then I render It in the external render. Its faster then the internal render.

                          Greetz From Holland

                          Hi, i used VUE for months but still don't know how the 'External renderer' works with VUE. Can you please tell me where i can get the tutorial? Thanks.

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                            solo
                            last edited by 23 Sept 2010, 14:54

                            http://users.tns.net/~mwalter1/External_Render.pdf

                            http://www.solos-art.com

                            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                              emfemsem
                              last edited by 28 Sept 2010, 16:10

                              Thanks so much, Solo.

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