Still looking for a good drafting companion for Sketchup...
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You guys need to check out jDraft, a multi-platform Java-based 2D drawing application which is currently in beta. The developer is very responsive, and we've both already been talking about a plugin for SketchUp (Ruby scripting dudes? Can U help? )
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@bob777 said:
Bottom line I think DraftSight is it.
Do you really think so? From a perspective of being a user of the Macintosh, I find Draftsight's workflow very un-Mac like, throwing my workflow completely off course. Maybe this is okay from a linux and PC perspective, but not from a Mac GUI perspective. Google have managed to code SketchUp correctly for both Mac and PC, so why can't Dassault get this right?
I also found that even on a quite powerful Mac, that DS runs quite slow and is choppy in use. I've binned my copy already.
edit; and Ive just checked the website, the Mac version is still in Beta.
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going again through this topic I realized something you guys are probably overlooking: why think of a "good drafting companion for Sketchup" if it already has one that costs nothing and comes along with it? I am talking about LayOut.
why do something twice –in 2d and 3d– when you can do it once in 3d and extract the 2d from it in LayOut? I have tried it in a real life job and it works fine, provided you prepare your model for that.
as jean lemire would say, just ideas...
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@edson said:
why think of a "good drafting companion for Sketchup" if it already has one that costs nothing and comes along with it? I am talking about LayOut.
Edson,
First of all please remember that LayOut isn't free... It's a part of the SU Pro version, but not the free Google SU...
Secondly, I assume you've overlooked the first post...@drfabinex said:
I've trolled the Layout discussion forum and everywhere else I could think of to find a companion program for Sketchup to produce good construction drawings.
Currently I tolerate the limitations of Layout, but I'd prefer something like Viacad, Doublecad or Turbocad. Of the 3 Turbocad is my fav but they're all PAINFULLY slow to navigate models with a high poly count.
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hi, kim.
thanks for pointing that out to me. however, let me make two additional points here.
- I am not sure what is said on the first post rests on a thorough knowledge of what LayOut can do. there has been dramatic improvements from v2 to v3.
- I can hardly understand why someone who uses Sketchup professionally would not be willing to pay for a pro license. $495 for the license + $95 for updates does not seem too much for an office's budget. besides, none of the posts on this thread asks for a free "good drafting companion to sketchup". so if people are willing to pay for the companion app why not buy sketchup pro and get layout too?
best regards.
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Comments on Layout must be in comparison to AutoCAD. I mean I can understand frustration with some of the CAD software, but I can't imagine using LayOut instead of my 2d CAD (PowerCADD) with all it's graphic, drafting, and text capabilities.
Alternately it is so easy to import any image from Layout or SU to PowerCADD for final composing and notation.
I understand, of course, that Layout is a as close to SU as one can get in terms of being a companion. I just don't think it compares to all you get on CAD software. Yet--it hasn't been around so long. I have to admit I haven't worked in LO really, I just see what it has and doesn't have.
Draftsight just crawled and crashed on my CoreDuo (Snow Leopard) MBP. Am I missing something?
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@pbacot said:
Comments on Layout must be in comparison to AutoCAD. I mean I can understand frustration with some of the CAD software, but I can't imagine using LayOut instead of my 2d CAD (PowerCADD) with all it's graphic, drafting, and text capabilities.
Alternately it is so easy to import any image from Layout or SU to PowerCADD for final composing and notation.
I understand, of course, that Layout is a as close to SU as one can get in terms of being a companion. I just don't think it compares to all you get on CAD software. Yet--it hasn't been around so long. I have to admit I haven't worked in LO really, I just see what it has and doesn't have.
Draftsight just crawled and crashed on my CoreDuo (Snow Leopard) MBP. Am I missing something?
peter,
you would be surprised to see what LayOut can do. it is an evolving piece of software so we can expect great advances in the future. nonetheless, many people have switched to the sketchup/layout combo for their documentation and not for just small stuff or for hobby purposes.
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Hi Edson,
I don't disagree with you - on the contrary...
@edson said:
besides, none of the posts on this thread asks for a free "good drafting companion to sketchup".
I agree, but you wrote...
@edson said:
...if it already has one that costs nothing and comes along with it?
So in order to avoid any misunderstandings, I just wanted to point out that LayOut isn't free, but is a part of the fee you pay for the Pro version...
(I know you can't get a Pro version without LayOut at a smaller fee, but it's still a part of the fee...) -
well, my point was: if you buy sketchup for your work then layout comes to you for free, sort of...
either way, it is a promising app and I hope google keeps developing it. if they do, it may allow us not to keep looking for the drafting companion to sketchup. -
I've lost count of how many CAD programs I've tried over the years hoping to find a good layout tool to go with Sketchup. Just recently TigerCAD, TurboCAD again after many years, DoubleCAD, FelixCAD. Bottom line I think DraftSight is it. I thought it was 2D at first, but scanning the manual it is actually 2.5D! and it opened a 12mb dxf model from SU perfectly with layers. It makes nice vector PDFs and .dwgs that open well in other programs. UI is different and still figuring it out. Also imports images and you can reference external files. All the stuff required to do layouts and drafting. And it's free. DoubleCAD imports the skp model but you can't actually do anything with it, too clunky and slow. My two cents. I normally use ArchiCAD by the way.
EDIT: Update. Upon further review DoubleCAD isn't working out. Now, I'm export 2D drawings extracted from the model in a preliminary sheet layout in dxf. Then open in DraftSight to add images, Word docs, etc. No 2.5D, just 2D. One issue is although it prints to pdf very well, the file is 15mb! I found that printing an svg, open that in Inkscape and save as pdf makes great quality and 141kb. TurboCAD Designer also works for this, but not free, about $40.
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