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    [Plugin] Extrude Edges by Rails by Face

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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      The Bezier tool has an Edit option on its toolbar - so use that to change the number of segments in a curve - it's similar to how you can change the segmentation of an Arc in 'Entity Info'.

      TIG

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      • charly2008C Offline
        charly2008
        last edited by

        Hi TIG,

        I find your EEbyFace is very suitable for the construction of Gothic vaults. But one problem I have! How can I predetermine the orientation of the final Profile exactly? So far I have turned the initial profile until I accidentally had the desired direction. Is there a simpler solution?

        Charly


        Extrude 1.JPG


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        Extrude.skp


        Extrude 1.JPG

        He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          When you draw the 'Profile' face flat on the ground its Y [green] axis is used as the Z up axis of the extrusion. If this extrusion starts flat it is kept at Y [?] ๐Ÿ˜•

          TIG

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          • J Offline
            joebamber
            last edited by

            TIG - the other extrusion tools are awesome and i now use them as much as i can,

            But the Extrusion by Rail by Face; just has never worked for me, i've included pictures for you to understand...

            It always says i haven't selected the face and so wont extrude them across either rails or profiles (though as you can see, i defintly did select it),

            I have a MAC pro with sketchup 7 - and on bootcamp in both MAC and PC worlds i get this trouble... ๐Ÿ˜ข


            TIG QUESTION.jpg

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              It's because your selected Face isn't made 'FLAT' - i.e. it must line flat on the ground, and its Y [green] axis will be taken as the 'UP' direction when extruding it. It doesn't matter if it faces up or down the tool assumes it's facing up anyway!
              Just rotate it about an edge so it's 'flat' on the ground.

              TIG

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              • S Offline
                stefx
                last edited by

                Hi TIG,
                I use a MacBook too and I have the same problem of Morphin_24....have you got any idea to solve that?
                Thank you very much.

                Stef.

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  stefx

                  You can control the number of points in a Bezier curve - as explained in my earlier response.
                  Can you give any more info or an example SKP with a failing set of curves ?
                  PM or posted ๐Ÿ˜•

                  TIG

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                  • S Offline
                    stefx
                    last edited by

                    It is a simple bunch of curves....could you explain how i can manage the segments with the bezier curves?
                    thank you very much.

                    Stef.


                    12~.skp

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      You don't have Beziers ๐Ÿ˜• They are 'Arcs' and you need to use the built-in tool 'Entity Info' to manage those. They have 12 segments which is reasonable. Reduce the face's size/shape to get 'bars' formed...
                      See this illustration for more detailsCapture.PNG

                      TIG

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                        shoeb_cars
                        last edited by

                        you are like right outta a scifi movie mahnnn....awesome
                        RESPECT +++

                        consider me ur fan... โ˜€

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                        • J Offline
                          joebamber
                          last edited by

                          Thanks TIG - Noobie error here --> <--
                          ๐Ÿ˜„

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                            stefx
                            last edited by

                            Hi Tig,
                            Thank you for your tutorial...
                            managing the number of segments is working...!
                            In my last attempts I see the ribs are really thick.....see the screenshot... ๐Ÿ˜ž
                            basically I cannot have the same result of your first post in this topic..

                            any suggestion?


                            Schermata 2010-08-27 a 13.29.40.png

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                              d12dozr
                              last edited by

                              Stefx, the ribs should be exactly the same size as your square(profile/face) on the ground, so maybe make your profile smaller?

                              3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                              http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                Ditto.
                                If you look in the picture in the first topic the face is quite tiny compared to the rib spacing...
                                The cross-section of the ribs will be made to match the face.
                                Scale it smaller if needed...
                                Small face >>> thin ribs
                                Big face >>> fat ribs
                                Face long in Y [green] >>> 'tall' ribs
                                Face long in X [red] >>> 'wide' ribs
                                etc ๐Ÿ˜’

                                TIG

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                                  joebamber
                                  last edited by

                                  hello TIG ! - I'm trying to make a double curved mesh with only square faces.

                                  With 'extrusion by rails'; if more than 1 rail is used; erasing coplanar edges (in the post curve production) cannot make the faces square and do not delete coplanar edges.

                                  Do you get this too? (sorry if this another noobie error with these tools)

                                  Joe

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                                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                    jeff hammond
                                    last edited by

                                    Hey Joe,

                                    Those lines aren't coplaner so they won't delete without deleting the adjoining faces as well

                                    To make a quad, you need at least two of the edges to be parallel. With complex curved surfaces like you're trying create, very rarely will a quad happen and even then, they're sporadically located throughout the mesh.

                                    Why do you need quads though if you don't mind me asking?

                                    dotdotdot

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                                      joebamber
                                      last edited by

                                      Am trying to get quads so I can use *Paracloud for applying components across a mesh in sketchup, though if I use triangles, I get less control over the application of these components. I could always use soap and skin plugin, and then free-form, but was just wondering if it was possible with TIGs tools, as the curves are more accurate.

                                      Joe

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                                        stefx
                                        last edited by

                                        Tig and the other guys,
                                        sorry for the late!
                                        Thank you for all your help!
                                        trying with small faces, it is working as I need.

                                        Stefx

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                                          lapx
                                          last edited by

                                          Hello Tig,

                                          Will this work with a circle face and diagonal like the lattice by rail. Lattice by rail allows the diagonal. I notice the diagonal dialogue is not a choice with the rail by face.
                                          Is this correct? I would like to have pipes that cross diagonal to each other with glassin between.

                                          Thanks

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            No... but you can use the EEbyRailsToLattice > diagonal edges... and then use the results to extrude the circular face along those paths [tip: add a cpoint at its center and select that too].Capture.PNG
                                            The are also other tools line 'Lines2cyl' or 'PipeAlongPath'that could do the second step in a slightly different way...

                                            TIG

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