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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      Because rails are curves and these have segments if you give them the same number of segments then they are an even mesh, but if you don't the script tries to even out the mesh as much as possible: so 12+12 is fine [12 ribs], but 12+13 means that we need to squeeze an extra one into the 12 set [13 ribs]. We must run from node to node, we can't spring from a random point along a segment ? The sure way to even up unmatched rails would be to multiply the segments together - e.g 12x13=156 ribs - far too many !!!

      TIG

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      • D Offline
        DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
        last edited by

        I have tried.
        and note that using multiples of the number of segments. for example
        Rails1 12segment and Rails2 24segmen
        Rails1 12segment and Rails2 36segmen
        Rails1 12segment and Rails2 48segmen
        divisions that are generated in the mesh are equal.

        however if we use number of segments that are not multiples.
        divisions that are generated in the mesh are not equal.

        could enter the number of divisions after selecting the rails and profiles?
        could preview a mesh phantom, similar to extrudelathe. and create changes in the number of divisions of the rails and profiles?

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        • broomstickB Offline
          broomstick
          last edited by

          YOU THE MAN TIG!!

          First attempt: 30 seconds of calculation!!

          http://mezzalisca.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/extrude1.jpg

          Same structure, using extrude edges by rails to do the panes!!

          http://mezzalisca.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/extrude2.jpg

          Is it magic? I think it is!!

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          • simon le bonS Offline
            simon le bon
            last edited by

            Does somebody have already thought of that fantastic kind of Eebrbf possibilities ?


            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_028_th.jpg

            In order to achieve the left figure: -> ->

            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_029_th.jpg

            😉 😉 simon

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              And at the end you can now rotate each "lines volumes" between them! 😉

              For the pleasure of the eyes ☀
              A geometric study by Cristobal Vila

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • simon le bonS Offline
                simon le bon
                last edited by

                Hi Pilou,
                Isfahan is a pure Gem (as you sometimes like to say) It would deserve a dedicated thread IMO.
                (I would like to know what softs Cristobal Vila had used.)

                @unknownuser said:

                And at the end you can now rotate each "lines volumes" between them! 😉

                Can you please explain further. I don't understand what you mean. What you say let me think I have missed an important enhancement.. ❓

                A remark for TIG:
                Here and there, the process make Su krashes whith the following message: BUG SPLAT RC _ RESOURCE DLL NOT FOUND
                Is there some manipulations to avoid?

                *simon

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  @unknownuser said:

                  It would deserve a dedicated thread IMO.

                  I believe that it's yet exist somewhere in this forum 😉

                  Cristobal uses in general Electric Image! It's a big fan of it 😉

                  @unknownuser said:

                  I don't understand what you mean. What you say let me think I have missed an important enhancement.

                  You absolutly no missed something 😄
                  Is just that your final example is some "Flat"
                  So if you take each form you can rotate it 😉

                  rotate.png

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • simon le bonS Offline
                    simon le bon
                    last edited by

                    @unknownuser said:

                    Electric Image Animation System v8.0 EIAS 8 full version $895.00

                    😎 not for me dear Pilou

                    @unknownuser said:

                    You absolutly no missed something 😄

                    Oh! I see! 😉

                    In my mind that wasn't really an "exemple" to show but a potential to point out. ->How can we obtain else way a regular evolution of a curve from a shape to another in SU without any calculation? I see plenty of possible applications in architecture..
                    -> the other possibility offers a great time saving in building fences, trellis, framework...

                    Here is a quick rather poor exemple

                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TigChurch001_th.jpg


                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TigChurch003_th.jpg


                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TigChurch004_th.jpg

                    😕 s

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
                      last edited by

                      yes you have also the 2 faces + path who give the evolution of a curve/ surface 😉

                      http://forums.sketchucation.com/download/file.php?id=32785

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                      • simon le bonS Offline
                        simon le bon
                        last edited by

                        Kirill 2 faces + path exact, exact 👍

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                        • simon le bonS Offline
                          simon le bon
                          last edited by

                          I pursued my idea with : "La jolie petite fontaine"

                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_048th.jpg

                          *s

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                          • M Offline
                            Morphing_24
                            last edited by

                            Hey TIG
                            I have just downloaded this plugin and I tried to find an answer here if there is always a default number of ribs . Everytime, I find that there are always 21 ribs and I have no idea how to change it. How can I do it??
                            thanks

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              That number depends on the segments in the "rail/profiles's" curve - so add/subtract segments to change that...
                              Your 'rail/profile' must have 20 segments >> 21 "ends" ???
                              😒

                              TIG

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                              • M Offline
                                Morphing_24
                                last edited by

                                thanks, problem solved 😄
                                But now i have one problem and another question.
                                I use a macbook pro and this only happens on mac not on the PC generally. The problem is that whenever I try to use the extrude edges by rail by face, and most of the time after I choose profiles and rails it crashes and the crashDialogHeader appears . What do you think it might be??
                                And the other question is if the number of ribs depend on the segments, I made a curve using the line tool but it looks really edgy, and if I draw a line with the bezier tool, how can I control the number of ribs using this tool and at the same time keeping it smooth?
                                Thanks in advance

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  The Bezier tool has an Edit option on its toolbar - so use that to change the number of segments in a curve - it's similar to how you can change the segmentation of an Arc in 'Entity Info'.

                                  TIG

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                                  • charly2008C Offline
                                    charly2008
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi TIG,

                                    I find your EEbyFace is very suitable for the construction of Gothic vaults. But one problem I have! How can I predetermine the orientation of the final Profile exactly? So far I have turned the initial profile until I accidentally had the desired direction. Is there a simpler solution?

                                    Charly


                                    Extrude 1.JPG


                                    Extrude.JPG


                                    Extrude.skp


                                    Extrude 1.JPG

                                    He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      When you draw the 'Profile' face flat on the ground its Y [green] axis is used as the Z up axis of the extrusion. If this extrusion starts flat it is kept at Y [?] 😕

                                      TIG

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                                      • J Offline
                                        joebamber
                                        last edited by

                                        TIG - the other extrusion tools are awesome and i now use them as much as i can,

                                        But the Extrusion by Rail by Face; just has never worked for me, i've included pictures for you to understand...

                                        It always says i haven't selected the face and so wont extrude them across either rails or profiles (though as you can see, i defintly did select it),

                                        I have a MAC pro with sketchup 7 - and on bootcamp in both MAC and PC worlds i get this trouble... 😢


                                        TIG QUESTION.jpg

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          It's because your selected Face isn't made 'FLAT' - i.e. it must line flat on the ground, and its Y [green] axis will be taken as the 'UP' direction when extruding it. It doesn't matter if it faces up or down the tool assumes it's facing up anyway!
                                          Just rotate it about an edge so it's 'flat' on the ground.

                                          TIG

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                                          • S Offline
                                            stefx
                                            last edited by

                                            Hi TIG,
                                            I use a MacBook too and I have the same problem of Morphin_24....have you got any idea to solve that?
                                            Thank you very much.

                                            Stef.

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