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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      @monkeybss said:

      But not for me! I've tried all possibilities and the Extrude Edges by Face doesn't work! Is there some other plugin that interferes ?

      None that I know of...

      Are you completely sure you are following the instructions: you do have have curve 'paths' ready and a single flat face selected etc ?
      Do you get any error messages in the Ruby Console when trying to use the tool[s] ?

      EEbyFace needs some preselected edges/curves as paths and a preselected flat face.

      EEbyRailsByFace needs 2/3/4 curves and a face - you preselect the face then choose the four curves to form the 'mesg' ribs - as profile, rail1, rail2 [can be 'rail1' again] and melding_profile [can be 'profile' again] (that's what I said, "...2/3/4 curves..."). The curves should have a modest number of segments and work best with the same or multiples of segments in the profiles/rails - although uneven segmentation will work, uneven 'meshes' can result as the unevenness is ironed out...

      😕

      TIG

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      • D Offline
        DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
        last edited by

        Tig.
        a query.
        Why? When the Rails have different number of segments in the rail less divisive segments of different lengths

        could divide the rail in lengths equal?

        [flash=853,505:2alsp9zu]http://www.youtube.com/v/NzdgTrjqodg&fs=1[/flash:2alsp9zu]

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          Because rails are curves and these have segments if you give them the same number of segments then they are an even mesh, but if you don't the script tries to even out the mesh as much as possible: so 12+12 is fine [12 ribs], but 12+13 means that we need to squeeze an extra one into the 12 set [13 ribs]. We must run from node to node, we can't spring from a random point along a segment ? The sure way to even up unmatched rails would be to multiply the segments together - e.g 12x13=156 ribs - far too many !!!

          TIG

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          • D Offline
            DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
            last edited by

            I have tried.
            and note that using multiples of the number of segments. for example
            Rails1 12segment and Rails2 24segmen
            Rails1 12segment and Rails2 36segmen
            Rails1 12segment and Rails2 48segmen
            divisions that are generated in the mesh are equal.

            however if we use number of segments that are not multiples.
            divisions that are generated in the mesh are not equal.

            could enter the number of divisions after selecting the rails and profiles?
            could preview a mesh phantom, similar to extrudelathe. and create changes in the number of divisions of the rails and profiles?

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            • broomstickB Offline
              broomstick
              last edited by

              YOU THE MAN TIG!!

              First attempt: 30 seconds of calculation!!

              http://mezzalisca.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/extrude1.jpg

              Same structure, using extrude edges by rails to do the panes!!

              http://mezzalisca.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/extrude2.jpg

              Is it magic? I think it is!!

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              • simon le bonS Offline
                simon le bon
                last edited by

                Does somebody have already thought of that fantastic kind of Eebrbf possibilities ?


                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_028_th.jpg

                In order to achieve the left figure: -> ->

                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_029_th.jpg

                😉 😉 simon

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  And at the end you can now rotate each "lines volumes" between them! 😉

                  For the pleasure of the eyes ☀
                  A geometric study by Cristobal Vila

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • simon le bonS Offline
                    simon le bon
                    last edited by

                    Hi Pilou,
                    Isfahan is a pure Gem (as you sometimes like to say) It would deserve a dedicated thread IMO.
                    (I would like to know what softs Cristobal Vila had used.)

                    @unknownuser said:

                    And at the end you can now rotate each "lines volumes" between them! 😉

                    Can you please explain further. I don't understand what you mean. What you say let me think I have missed an important enhancement.. ❓

                    A remark for TIG:
                    Here and there, the process make Su krashes whith the following message: BUG SPLAT RC _ RESOURCE DLL NOT FOUND
                    Is there some manipulations to avoid?

                    *simon

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
                      last edited by

                      @unknownuser said:

                      It would deserve a dedicated thread IMO.

                      I believe that it's yet exist somewhere in this forum 😉

                      Cristobal uses in general Electric Image! It's a big fan of it 😉

                      @unknownuser said:

                      I don't understand what you mean. What you say let me think I have missed an important enhancement.

                      You absolutly no missed something 😄
                      Is just that your final example is some "Flat"
                      So if you take each form you can rotate it 😉

                      rotate.png

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                      • simon le bonS Offline
                        simon le bon
                        last edited by

                        @unknownuser said:

                        Electric Image Animation System v8.0 EIAS 8 full version $895.00

                        😎 not for me dear Pilou

                        @unknownuser said:

                        You absolutly no missed something 😄

                        Oh! I see! 😉

                        In my mind that wasn't really an "exemple" to show but a potential to point out. ->How can we obtain else way a regular evolution of a curve from a shape to another in SU without any calculation? I see plenty of possible applications in architecture..
                        -> the other possibility offers a great time saving in building fences, trellis, framework...

                        Here is a quick rather poor exemple

                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TigChurch001_th.jpg


                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TigChurch003_th.jpg


                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TigChurch004_th.jpg

                        😕 s

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                        • pilouP Offline
                          pilou
                          last edited by

                          yes you have also the 2 faces + path who give the evolution of a curve/ surface 😉

                          http://forums.sketchucation.com/download/file.php?id=32785

                          Frenchy Pilou
                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                          My Little site :)

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                          • simon le bonS Offline
                            simon le bon
                            last edited by

                            Kirill 2 faces + path exact, exact 👍

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                            • simon le bonS Offline
                              simon le bon
                              last edited by

                              I pursued my idea with : "La jolie petite fontaine"

                              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_048th.jpg

                              *s

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                              • M Offline
                                Morphing_24
                                last edited by

                                Hey TIG
                                I have just downloaded this plugin and I tried to find an answer here if there is always a default number of ribs . Everytime, I find that there are always 21 ribs and I have no idea how to change it. How can I do it??
                                thanks

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  That number depends on the segments in the "rail/profiles's" curve - so add/subtract segments to change that...
                                  Your 'rail/profile' must have 20 segments >> 21 "ends" ???
                                  😒

                                  TIG

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                                  • M Offline
                                    Morphing_24
                                    last edited by

                                    thanks, problem solved 😄
                                    But now i have one problem and another question.
                                    I use a macbook pro and this only happens on mac not on the PC generally. The problem is that whenever I try to use the extrude edges by rail by face, and most of the time after I choose profiles and rails it crashes and the crashDialogHeader appears . What do you think it might be??
                                    And the other question is if the number of ribs depend on the segments, I made a curve using the line tool but it looks really edgy, and if I draw a line with the bezier tool, how can I control the number of ribs using this tool and at the same time keeping it smooth?
                                    Thanks in advance

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      The Bezier tool has an Edit option on its toolbar - so use that to change the number of segments in a curve - it's similar to how you can change the segmentation of an Arc in 'Entity Info'.

                                      TIG

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                                      • charly2008C Offline
                                        charly2008
                                        last edited by

                                        Hi TIG,

                                        I find your EEbyFace is very suitable for the construction of Gothic vaults. But one problem I have! How can I predetermine the orientation of the final Profile exactly? So far I have turned the initial profile until I accidentally had the desired direction. Is there a simpler solution?

                                        Charly


                                        Extrude 1.JPG


                                        Extrude.JPG


                                        Extrude.skp


                                        Extrude 1.JPG

                                        He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          When you draw the 'Profile' face flat on the ground its Y [green] axis is used as the Z up axis of the extrusion. If this extrusion starts flat it is kept at Y [?] 😕

                                          TIG

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                                          • J Offline
                                            joebamber
                                            last edited by

                                            TIG - the other extrusion tools are awesome and i now use them as much as i can,

                                            But the Extrusion by Rail by Face; just has never worked for me, i've included pictures for you to understand...

                                            It always says i haven't selected the face and so wont extrude them across either rails or profiles (though as you can see, i defintly did select it),

                                            I have a MAC pro with sketchup 7 - and on bootcamp in both MAC and PC worlds i get this trouble... 😢


                                            TIG QUESTION.jpg

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