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    [Plugin] Extrude Edges by Rails by Face

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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      Thanks [?]
      I see the problem - I can even get different results each time I run it !
      It shouldn't affect existing curves and it should either make the extrusions OR not - the error message appears when it has failed to make an extrusion - which it does on say the first profile but succeeds thereafter !
      This is all a mess !
      Until I track down the cause of this I recommend to users - as you have already - to save your work and always use a copy of the curves with EEbyRbyFace as they might be lost/messed with inadvertently - I'm bogged down in other stuff at the moment but I'll look at a fix asap... 😒

      TIG

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      • mitcorbM Offline
        mitcorb
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        Thanks[?] Yes, thanks for the fact that you have opened up new possibilities and perspectives with this suite of tools. Even if they need to be fine tuned.
        Again, I applaud your talent.

        I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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        • ken28875K Offline
          ken28875
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          WOW, amazing plugin! 👍 👍

          Thank you so much, TIG!

          Have a wonderful day!

          _KN

          Follow Your Dreams.

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          • ken28875K Offline
            ken28875
            last edited by

            Hi TIG,

            The plug is working, but I get that error message.

            http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt12/ken28875/Sketchup/EEbEbR_error.jpg

            Thanks,

            _KN

            Follow Your Dreams.

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              @TIG
              A suggestion : does it possible to have an option for have "surfaces" (inwards & outwards) for use the Windowizer for exemple!
              An automatic EEbR in the same time?


              structure1.png

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
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                Pilou

                I the first example I made I explained a process...
                Use the curves twice - as profiles/rails and make a smooth mesh with EEbyRails, and give its group a 'glass' material.
                Then make the 'frames' using this tool - EEbyRailsByFace; give its group the 'frame' material.
                Edit the glass-mesh group and select the faces and intersect with model - the glass panels will now get edges coincident with the frames...
                You can explode the frames' groups and intersect them too...
                Here's an example...EEbyXXX.png

                TIG

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  yes you right, it's the more simple! ☀

                  Suggestion : a different "surface" for the borders

                  (click image if scrollbarr)
                  test.png

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • mitcorbM Offline
                    mitcorb
                    last edited by

                    Hi, TIG:

                    @unknownuser said:

                    I see the problem - I can even get different results each time I run it !
                    It shouldn't affect existing curves and it should either make the extrusions OR not - the error message appears when it has failed to make an extrusion - which it does on say the first profile but succeeds thereafter !

                    Regarding your above reply, I was contemplating the action of the plugin from a purely qualitative point of view, as I am no coder. I was just wondering if- perhaps- disabling the minimum length default and the minimum angle default as part of the process would help. I really am just guessing.
                    I have noticed that the resultant construction tends to drift away from the original curves, even some features of FredoScale do this. So, maybe somehow the length and angle have something to do with it?

                    I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      I haven't had a chance to investigate this yet... Since each form is an iteration of the last I suspect that there's some cumulative errors creeping in ? TBC...

                      TIG

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                      • mitcorbM Offline
                        mitcorb
                        last edited by

                        Ok.
                        Your reply makes more sense.
                        I was really just throwing out some kind of idea if it would help.

                        I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          Here's an update http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=224219#p224219

                          1.8 20100312 Erasure of original curves glitch fixed.

                          TIG

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                            tald311
                            last edited by

                            That is amazing!

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                            • S Offline
                              sepo
                              last edited by

                              I am not able to get extrude edges by face or extrude edges by faces or extrude edges by rails by face to work. They all give me the message like on attached image and if I click OK I start losing the profiles created. What am I doing wrong. BTW I have installed demo of Thea. I wonder if the export plugin is making problem. The loft, lathe and extrude edges by rails works no problem. I am using latest version of the extrusion tools.


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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
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                                The "profile's" face must be flat facing up [or down] in the Z [blue] axis.
                                Try again with that... ❓

                                TIG

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                                  sepo
                                  last edited by

                                  😳 yes ...it works now....after reading in detail....

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                                  • M Offline
                                    monkeybss
                                    last edited by

                                    But not for me! I've tried all possibilities and the Extrude Edges by Face doesn't work! Is there some other plugin that interferes ?

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      @monkeybss said:

                                      But not for me! I've tried all possibilities and the Extrude Edges by Face doesn't work! Is there some other plugin that interferes ?

                                      None that I know of...

                                      Are you completely sure you are following the instructions: you do have have curve 'paths' ready and a single flat face selected etc ?
                                      Do you get any error messages in the Ruby Console when trying to use the tool[s] ?

                                      EEbyFace needs some preselected edges/curves as paths and a preselected flat face.

                                      EEbyRailsByFace needs 2/3/4 curves and a face - you preselect the face then choose the four curves to form the 'mesg' ribs - as profile, rail1, rail2 [can be 'rail1' again] and melding_profile [can be 'profile' again] (that's what I said, "...2/3/4 curves..."). The curves should have a modest number of segments and work best with the same or multiples of segments in the profiles/rails - although uneven segmentation will work, uneven 'meshes' can result as the unevenness is ironed out...

                                      😕

                                      TIG

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                                        DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
                                        last edited by

                                        Tig.
                                        a query.
                                        Why? When the Rails have different number of segments in the rail less divisive segments of different lengths

                                        could divide the rail in lengths equal?

                                        [flash=853,505:2alsp9zu]http://www.youtube.com/v/NzdgTrjqodg&fs=1[/flash:2alsp9zu]

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          Because rails are curves and these have segments if you give them the same number of segments then they are an even mesh, but if you don't the script tries to even out the mesh as much as possible: so 12+12 is fine [12 ribs], but 12+13 means that we need to squeeze an extra one into the 12 set [13 ribs]. We must run from node to node, we can't spring from a random point along a segment ? The sure way to even up unmatched rails would be to multiply the segments together - e.g 12x13=156 ribs - far too many !!!

                                          TIG

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                                            DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
                                            last edited by

                                            I have tried.
                                            and note that using multiples of the number of segments. for example
                                            Rails1 12segment and Rails2 24segmen
                                            Rails1 12segment and Rails2 36segmen
                                            Rails1 12segment and Rails2 48segmen
                                            divisions that are generated in the mesh are equal.

                                            however if we use number of segments that are not multiples.
                                            divisions that are generated in the mesh are not equal.

                                            could enter the number of divisions after selecting the rails and profiles?
                                            could preview a mesh phantom, similar to extrudelathe. and create changes in the number of divisions of the rails and profiles?

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