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    remus
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    @unknownuser said:

    wait, you didn't mention what the finished puzzle should be.. do you mean start with the picture and move the stack to a different pole following your guidelines?

    Thats it, the aim is to move all the discs to another pole following the rules, so for 2 discs the solution would look like this:
    hanoi1.jpg
    hanoi2.jpg
    hanoi3.jpg
    hanoi4.jpg

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      Ecuadorian
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      @remus said:

      -a disc must always be placed on a larger disc.

      ...or directly on the base.

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        remus
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        Updated ๐Ÿ˜„

        http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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          pilou
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          That is more interresting ๐Ÿ’š
          You can win 2 millions $ for make a "little" puzzle ๐Ÿ˜„
          But now make speedy answer : 31 12 2009 end first step of the game! โ—

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            jeff hammond
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            can i just answer 'it's going to take forever' ?
            that is a huge huge number that i don't really know how to write ๐Ÿ˜„

            i did find a method to obtain the answer though

            basically,
            2disc = 3 moves
            3disc = 7
            4disc = 15
            5disc = 31
            6disc = 63
            etc..

            following that sequence, 7discs = 127 then 8 = 255
            i'll try to get it better than that though.

            dotdotdot

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              remus
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              Good start jeff ๐Ÿ‘ Youve got what we in the business call a recursive solution i.e. you can find n+1 if you know n.

              The general solution should be fairly easy to find from there.

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                remus
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                Your a factor of 100 out, you can make 10 moves a minute whereas i guess you took a move takes 10 minutes. Otherwise correct though ๐Ÿ‘

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                  jeff hammond
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                  well, here's the answer i'm going to go with but this stuff is over my head.. i like the practical everyday logic puzzles much better ๐Ÿ˜„

                  184,467,440,737,095,516,150 minutes

                  [edit] hmm.. maybe that's 10 minutes too long? i guess you don't have to wait 10 minutes before making the very first move.

                  [edit2] oops agian.. i figured it as if you make one move every 10 minutes instead of 10 per minute..
                  so maybe it's more like
                  1,844,674,407,370,955,161 minutes...and 30seconds

                  dotdotdot

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                    jeff hammond
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                    @remus said:

                    Your a factor of 100 out, you can make 10 moves a minute whereas i guess you took a move takes 10 minutes. Otherwise correct though ๐Ÿ‘

                    right.. i update my post as you were posting yours.

                    ok, i'm gonna go eat ice cream now ๐Ÿ˜„

                    dotdotdot

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                      remus
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                      Very sensible ๐Ÿ‘

                      http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                        Daniel
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                        204 minutes

                        My avatar is an anachronism.

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                          remus
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                          howd you get that?

                          http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                            pilou
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                            is it not the famous Hanoรฏ tower? ๐Ÿ˜‰

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                              jeff hammond
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                              fwiw, the way i figured it out was by physically doing the puzzle in sketchup with 2,3,4 & 5 discs then looking for a pattern..

                              my results were
                              3
                              7
                              15
                              31

                              which i realized was the same a 4,8,16,32,64,etc minus 1..
                              then i had to find a big enough calculator to figure out the rest..

                              http://www.petting-zoo.org/Calculator.html

                              i'm sure there's a way to do this using formulas but i'm more of a hands on type ๐Ÿ˜‰

                              similar math is applied to this question:

                              would you rather I give you $5000 right now -or- give you a penny right now, 2 pennies tomorrow, 4 pennies the next day etc.. for an entire month?

                              dotdotdot

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                                Only Bill Gates and a few other chaps have enough spare change to pay the amount you would owe me, Jeff ($10,737,418.23), so I prefer you give me the $5,000 today.

                                EDIT: I mistook pennies for dollars and 5000 for 500, so I updated my post.

                                -Miguel Lescano
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                                  remus
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                                  Pilou, it is indeed the towers of hanoi problem.

                                  In a similar vein there is the wheat and chessboard story: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_and_chessboard_problem

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                                    jeff hammond
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                                    @ecuadorian said:

                                    Only Bill Gates and a few other chaps have enough spare change to pay the amount you would owe me, Jeff ($10,737,418.23), so I prefer you give me the $5,000 today.

                                    EDIT: I mistook pennies for dollars and 5000 for 500, so I updated my post.

                                    haha, okay Miguel.. the check is in the mail!

                                    dotdotdot

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                                      pbacot
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                                      @remus said:

                                      Well done people, its not a trick question: 2 is the correct answer as ecuadorian said (and the scales are the 1st type you posted jeff.)

                                      edit: doh, put 3 instead of 2. Corrected.

                                      Wait, thought it was 2.

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                                        jeff hammond
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                                        @pbacot said:

                                        @remus said:

                                        Well done people, its not a trick question: 2 is the correct answer as ecuadorian said (and the scales are the 1st type you posted jeff.)

                                        edit: doh, put 3 instead of 2. Corrected.

                                        Wait, thought it was 2.

                                        it is two. he put three at first then corrected it to two.

                                        dotdotdot

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