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    • R Offline
      Rudbeckia
      last edited by

      Thanks everyone

      I have downloaded Maxwell, Podium, Twlight and Vray

      Maxwell caused SU to splat constantly, so i took it off

      Podium and Twlight seem easy to use but b/c its an evaluation, the images only come out reeally small so I dont see the whole scene

      Playing with Vray now, will def try VUE

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        Rudbeckia
        last edited by

        yikes......vue is expensive, whats the learning curve on vue

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        • Alan FraserA Offline
          Alan Fraser
          last edited by

          The learnng curve for Vue depends on how expert and precise you want to get. Like any major piece of software there are all kinds of advanced volumetric lighting and procedural textural settings you can play with...but the basic program is drag and drop; and it comes with a mass of lighting presets to cover just about any exterior setting. It's perfectly possible to produce a decent render in an hour or so, but will take months to master completely.

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          • EarthMoverE Offline
            EarthMover
            last edited by

            What type of plants are you trying to render...2D (faceme) or 3D?

            3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
            Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
            Content Creator at Skapeup

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            • soloS Offline
              solo
              last edited by

              As Alan says, it depends on what you want to achieve.
              Straight out of the box you can create a decent scene and pretty good render, however to reach the pinnacle of what Vue has to offer takes time and a pretty steep learning curve.
              The good thing about it is it's fun.

              Why not start with the PLE version (best to learn with as opposed to the free pioneer version that's very limited)
              And if and when you hit a snag post on forum and I'll be around to help where I can as well as many other Vue users here.

              http://www.solos-art.com

              If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                Rudbeckia
                last edited by

                thank so much all for the help

                Whats the PLE version?

                As to the question about 3d versus 2d plants, which are the best to use for rendering?

                I assumed 2d b/c so many of the 3d plants in SU dont look realistic at all

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                • EarthMoverE Offline
                  EarthMover
                  last edited by

                  Quality 3D plants will always render better because they cast shadows onto themselves and better emulate the lighting that exists in the rest of the scene. If however, you are a landscaper designer like myself, there are not nearly enough 3D plants to supplement the thousands of plants befitting of my particular zone. I tend to use a lot of 2D plants, but will typically try and edit the color levels and exposure of each plant to try and get a more natural and uniform look.

                  With 2D plants, most require some alpha information to cut them out. For renders that support alpha transparency without additional maps, you have -

                  Podium
                  Twilight
                  Vue
                  Vray (for Max...not for SU)
                  Hypershot
                  LightUp (if I'm not mistaken)

                  If I were in your shoes and wanted inexpensive quality with support for alpha transparency and both biased and unbiased results....I'd go with Twilight.

                  3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                  Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                  Content Creator at Skapeup

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                  • FrederikF Offline
                    Frederik
                    last edited by

                    Wonder why nobody have mentioned Kerkythea... ๐Ÿ˜•
                    It's free and at the KT Forum you can download some nice and free Xfrog 3D tree libraries...
                    Using the instancing brush in KT is really easy... ๐Ÿ˜„
                    My best advice to you will be to read the Getting started tutorial and watch some of the tutorial videos available... ๐Ÿ˜‰


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                    Cheers
                    Kim Frederik

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                      Rudbeckia
                      last edited by

                      thanks for the info

                      I will try Kekythea too

                      is it bad for a lap top to spend hours rendering something?

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                        remus
                        last edited by

                        Depends what rendering engine your using and how much time youve got until you need to hand over the images ๐Ÿ˜›

                        http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                          Rudbeckia
                          last edited by

                          @remus said:

                          Depends what rendering engine your using and how much time youve got until you need to hand over the images ๐Ÿ˜›

                          okay so my computer wont like blow up or anything ๐Ÿ˜„

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                            solo
                            last edited by

                            Nah, it will give you the blue screen of death first.

                            http://www.solos-art.com

                            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                              Ecuadorian
                              last edited by

                              If it's a Dell, it might really explode.

                              http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=32550
                              http://blogs.smh.com.au/mashup/archives//005359.html
                              http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/08/dell_fire.html

                              Just joking; it's not only Dell laptops which can explode. The problem is in the batteries. Some other manufacturers have experienced similar problems, even Apple:
                              http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/macbook_inferno_an_apple_macbook_battery_catches_fire.php
                              http://altatecgt.com/blog/2006/09/08/macbook-se-une-al-club-de-las-quemaditas/
                              http://www.nowhereelse.fr/macbook-explosion-16747/
                              http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/06/27/disaster-on-the-homefront-macbook-pro-battery-explosion-no-images/
                              http://www.appledefects.com/?p=259

                              Just to be on the safe side, why not assemble a desktop PC for rendering? And please, don't put your "laptop" on your lap.

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                                Rudbeckia
                                last edited by

                                @ecuadorian said:

                                If it's a Dell, it might really explode.

                                http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=32550
                                http://blogs.smh.com.au/mashup/archives//005359.html
                                http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/08/dell_fire.html

                                Just joking; it's not only Dell laptops which can explode. The problem is in the batteries. Some other manufacturers have experienced similar problems, even Apple:
                                http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/macbook_inferno_an_apple_macbook_battery_catches_fire.php
                                http://altatecgt.com/blog/2006/09/08/macbook-se-une-al-club-de-las-quemaditas/
                                http://www.nowhereelse.fr/macbook-explosion-16747/
                                http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/06/27/disaster-on-the-homefront-macbook-pro-battery-explosion-no-images/
                                http://www.appledefects.com/?p=259

                                Just to be on the safe side, why not assemble a desktop PC for rendering? And please, don't put your "laptop" on your lap.

                                its not a dell its an HP and it runs fabulously compared to the dell i had, are those all linke to computers exploding?? dont want to see that i may be scared to render then!!

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