WebDialog Sub Forum? (Poll added)
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yes.
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I vote no. I dont like too many subforums.
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I vote yes. Those interested in Webdialogs (like me) don't have to bother other users with a so specialized topic.
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My argument that it qualifies for a subforum is that WebDialogs requires knowledge of at least three other languages; HTML, CSS and JS - stuff that often get asked about, but isn't really Ruby related.
Then we've have the differences between the platforms - which isn't documented and has caused quite a number of threads here. Having them all grouped would make it easier to dig them up. -
It just seems to me that if it is logical to have forums for different aspects of Sketchup -- Ruby, Layout, Materials, Components and Styles and so on -- it is equally logical to set up one for Web Dialogs. Voting should be decided on logic not subjective judgment. In my mind it is not logical to have subforums for projects rather than aspects.
Chris
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I vote Yes, If I get some time this winter I would like to tackle converting one of my scripts.
That's when it would be handy to have all the relevant information contained in one place.cheer!
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Not quite.
What we need is a "programming Rubies" discussion. As is, this forum has requests and plugins discussions, helpful chat between Ruby producers and Ruby consumers. Then we add to that programmer/programmer discussion, which is of no interest to Ruby consumers.
I'm about to post a query re my editor. Can you imagine any topic of less interest to the Ruby consumer?
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I've always considered the Ruby section a developer section.
Maybe a subsection just [Plugin]s? Might not be a bad idea.
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Great idea as usual, Thom. We should separate the [plugin]s out of the developement discussions. As a sub-forum of Ruby Discusson, or it's own top-level forum?
One possibility:
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Plugins Downloads - for posting plugin downloads and follow-up discussions. (better searches, too) Really, some one needs to set up a dedicated site to host these.
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SketchUp Development - about developing for SketchUp. (writing extensions, not just Ruby)
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WebDialogs
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City Gen (special)
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SKX (special)
Possibly the 3 sub-forums can be special interest group so as to not be visible by default (is that how it works?)
Please suggest a better organization.
(editing...)
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Change my vote to a hearty YES!
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@jim said:
Possibly the 3 sub-forums can be special interest group so as to not be visible by default (is that how it works?)
City Gen and SKX, maybe - but not WebDialogs.
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I changed from a no to yes also with this discussion going the way it is. I would also vote to hide citygen and skx, but leave web dialogs unhidden I suppose.
And a complete forum or subforum for just plugins is interesting, and I like it. Is it supposed to include requests also? Or just posted plugins? I would guess it should hold plugins and requests?
And how is that forum different than the extesnions forum? I still don't understand the purpose of that forum other than to remove some of the larger scripts from the ruby forum....
Chris
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@chris fullmer said:
And how is that forum different than the extesnions forum? I still don't understand the purpose of that forum other than to remove some of the larger scripts from the ruby forum....
Extension is stuff like Render applications and such that hook into SU. Like V-Ray, it's not a ruby, other than it uses Ruby to bridge the communication between SU and VRay. Any discussions related to that would be in regards to rendering, which isn't ver interesting in the ruby forum.
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We did a similar split at Smustard - we have the Plugins forum for the user issues and the SketchUp Ruby forum for the developer issues.
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I hope nobody minds me having a third shot at promoting a full WebDialog forum. WebDialogs use Ruby code to work Sketchup's display or to extract re-usable information. So WebDialogs obviously are part of Ruby discussions, but they also have strong relationships with all the other forums simply because of the linking capabilities of the World Wide Web. We need to explore this in a dedicated forum that can touch the others but not be obscured by one or more of them.
Thank you,
Chris
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I have voted 'yes'. I think that WebDialogs issues should be addressed and it would be much better to keep all related stuff in the Ruby Discussions/sub-forum.
Just a side-note. I have recently invested my time in learning WxSU (WxRuby) and in my opinion it is excellent. It is pure Ruby and works well. It is a solution for me.
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Here's a little more ...
@unknownuser said:This is a good point. On one hand, you could argue that WebDialogs are the answer to complex UI inside SU, but in practice I think it's hard to find developers who are experts at ruby AND html AND javascript, which is largely what's needed to create solid UI inside a webdialog.
If people have seen any UI APIs that are worth looking at as a potential model for how we could extend Ruby UI support, please let me know.
I think there is evidence now that there are developers willing to collaborate to help produce such a model.
The quote is from this post.
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I really don't know anything about webdialogs, but placing them in a more localized and searchable area sounds like a good idea.
I must ask though, would this be like the woodworker's specific area? I'd hate to think that something useful would be brought up in the WD forum and have it be inaccessible/unsearched by the regular forum login.
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@jim said:
Do we need another sub-forum just for webdialogs?
I vote:
%(#006000)[**YES**]%(#000000)[Developers Forum]%(#BF0000)[**>**]%(#000000)[**WebDialog** subforum] %(#006000)[**YES**]%(#000000)[Developers Forum]%(#BF0000)[**>**]%(#000000)[**WxSU** subforum]
skx and citygen look a bit lemon like at the moment, just sitting there.
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