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    • SwissmountainS Offline
      Swissmountain
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      Thank yoy ThomThom and Gaius! I will try both suggestions they sound promising! I appreciate your swift replies ☀

      Cogito ergo dum-di-dum

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      • GaieusG Offline
        Gaieus
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        Mind you that my "idea" is not a guarantee - just a hope.
        😉

        Gai...

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        • SwissmountainS Offline
          Swissmountain
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          @gaieus said:

          Rick Wilson wrote a plugin to "FixAspectRatio" back when (AFAIK) this Film and stage plugin was the only one that inserted these grey bars. You could try it and see if it fixes anything with this mess in your view.

          unfortunately this didn't work. I have been too busy to try the v-ray toys solution, will post an update when I get around to it.

          As a quick temporary fix I used Time Machine on my mac to re-couperate my old SKP7 from before I updated and use it to export jpgs.

          Thank you Gaieus

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          • R Offline
            red_shift
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            I am having this same issue with the gray bars when using the Maxwell plugin. I have not been able to find a workaround. I can export views fine at any resolution until I go to the Maxwell plugin and set "show render area". So now I have no way to match my SU view to what Maxwell will render. And I am unable to export without the gray bars. HELP!!!

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            • SwissmountainS Offline
              Swissmountain
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              @thomthom said:

              http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=15491#p119728

              I think the viewport features you need should work. Might be some issues with the Webdialogs though. Let me know if you experience problems.

              Hey Thomthom,

              hope you read this... it's been a year since the last post of this thread.

              As described in my last post to this thread I worked around the problem described in this post by working in an earlier version of skp7 and that was fine. Now I updated to skp8 and was hoping my problem would just go away... guess it persists. 😐

              Your suggestion to use your vray toys seems like the best shot to fix this problem right now, however it didn't quite work a year ago and still does not produce a result. As you predicted, there seems to be an issue with the web dialogue, which I assume is supposed to output an image file?

              I don't manage to output a file at all when I hit "export".

              http://gallery.me.com/swissmountain/100115/Picture-207/web.jpg?ver=12913328360001

              I export my images with a resolution of 2000x1080 pixels and notice the width is locked with the word "infinity" not sure this is part of the problem.

              Am I overlooking something?

              Tusen takk!

              Fredi

              Cogito ergo dum-di-dum

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              • honoluludesktopH Offline
                honoluludesktop
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                Just a random thought. Could it be related to your graphic driver, and the upgrade to v7?

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                • SwissmountainS Offline
                  Swissmountain
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                  Hey Honoluludesktop, how's the weather?

                  Thanks for your insight. However, I am pretty sure it is not a graphic card problem since I have the same issue on both my laptop and desktop.
                  I'm using an ATI Radeon HD 4870, which is not creating any trouble with any of my apps.

                  The Film and Stage plugin is quite old and has been fraught with little quirks and issues, since it is a ruby script written by an independent party for skp5.

                  It is however an amazing tool without which skp sort of becomes useless to me, I work in film.

                  The grey bars have always been a problem with this plugin... the old workaround was to create a "skp window" which matches the ratio well enough to not show any grey bars, then select "use view size" to save. This got rid of the grey bars efficiently up to the second "upgrade" of skp7 when it all of a sudden stopped working.

                  I am trying to find a tool or method which allows me to grab the "skp window" and output it at the precise ratio (1:1.85) so the grey bars disappear.

                  Aloha!

                  Fredi

                  Cogito ergo dum-di-dum

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                  • Chris FullmerC Offline
                    Chris Fullmer
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                    Hey Freddi, even in version 8, you should be able to turn those grey bars off, then resize your window, then export the image to get a correctly sized jpg without the grey bars.

                    Also, those grey bars are apparently a Mac only thing. So you could use the plugin on a PC without the same problems from what I've seen.

                    Also, Google is currently re-working this script. We're hopeful that they will get this all sorted out for us in the near future.

                    And you're in"LA" is that Los Angeles?, or Louisiana? or somewhere else?

                    Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
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                    • SwissmountainS Offline
                      Swissmountain
                      last edited by

                      Hey Chris,

                      You are right, I am a mac user... and I live in Los Angeles.

                      I have Parallels but am using such a mish-mosh of apps already I hesitate adding more steps to the process.

                      Resizing the window used to work just fine from versions 5 through to early 7.
                      Not anymore though, I tried everything, even taking precise snapshots using the ruby console.

                      I think I will keep working in 7 until this plugin is revised.

                      Thank you for your input!

                      Ciao,

                      Fredi

                      Cogito ergo dum-di-dum

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                      • D Offline
                        driven
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                        @unknownuser said:

                        I am trying to find a tool or method which allows me to grab the "skp window" and output it at the precise ratio (1:1.85) so the grey bars disappear.

                        Fredi

                        hi Fredi,

                        I work in film and play around with SU, the original plugin was made by @Last, isn't encoded, is fully modifiable and doesn't have a specific 'camera view' export function.

                        Have a look at camera.rb in Smultron Editor or similar, there are a couple of to-do items that someone might complete and possibly add a field of view export (if Google doesn't)

                        if you use SnapNDrag's Window selection and then crop down to the FOV in Graphics Convertor you can get very actuate aspect ration jpeg's for free
                        with or without camera info

                        john

                        learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                        • SwissmountainS Offline
                          Swissmountain
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                          Hi John, thanks for all the suggestions!

                          I do have the original camera.rb plugin from @last
                          but I don't know how to add ruby code which will
                          export a jpg of the FOV... rats!

                          The screenshot idea is valid, however the resulting
                          image is pixelated )jagged edges) due to the lack
                          of anti aliasing.

                          ...and png exports with transparent background have
                          advantages over solid pct and jpg files.

                          ...an image capture function of the camera.rb plugin
                          would definitely have to be able to output jpg, and png files!

                          Anyways... hopefully Google will figure it out... I am keeping
                          my fingers crossed. Until then I keep using skp7.

                          Cogito ergo dum-di-dum

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                          • Chris FullmerC Offline
                            Chris Fullmer
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                            At the last basecamp a couple of months ago, a few of us sat around and discussed this plugin at length. Google is working on it, and I've got a set of improvements I'd like to make to it once we see what they get us. I'm optimistic!

                            Also, if you could try this code on the Mac. This will export an image to your plugins folder (or maybe the base SketchUp folder, I'm not exactly sure where). Please do the following:

                            • Using the Film and stage plugin, make a camera and set up the aspect ratio to something where you have those grey bars showing on the screen.
                            • Copy and paste the following code into the Ruby Console in SketchUp, press enter to execture the code.
                            view=Sketchup.active_model.active_view;height=1080;width=(height*view.camera.aspect_ratio).to_i;keys={;filename=>"aspect_exporter.png",;width=>width,;height=>height,;antialias=>false,;compression=>0.9,;transparent=>true};view.write_image keys
                            

                            That code should all be a single line, no line breaks, pasted into the ruby console as a single line.

                            That should export an image to your plugins folder, or maybe base SketchUp installation folder. That image will be 1080pixels tall, and as wide as needed to match the camera aspect that is shown on the screen when the image is exported. BTW, it mgiht not work as expected if there are no gray bars on the screen.

                            If you could test the code and let me know if it exports an image to the correct aspect, with no weird grey bars like the Mac is prone to doing, that would be great. If it works, I can write up a more fully functioning image exporter that would help solve your probolems for now.

                            Chris

                            Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
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                            • D Offline
                              driven
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                              hi Chris,

                              that doesn't work, unfortunately...

                              one idea I've contemplated is using a semi-transparent watermark for the camera FOV, this example is a quick hash-up using knightgame frame with locked aspect ratio...

                              you could have one for each camera or a combined set of marker lines

                              just an idea

                              john
                              using standard export 2D

                              learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                              • mitcorbM Offline
                                mitcorb
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                                @Chris:
                                Interesting that you ask about location. "And you're in"LA" is that Los Angeles?, or Louisiana? or somewhere else?"
                                Louisiana has a fairly active young film industry.

                                I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                  Chris Fullmer
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                                  @John - That did not work....meaning nothing happened? Or it exported an image of the wrong aspect ratio? Or it still had lame grey bars all over the place? I'd like to tweak it and keep trying a few things on it if you could let me know what about it did not work, I could try something different.

                                  There is also an option to crop the image after it has been exported using a ruby. That could also be worth looking into if Google does not fix the problem on their end first.

                                  @mitcorb - Cool, I did not know what Louisiana has an up and coming film sector. The way things are now, with film being so accessible by so many people, I think we might start seeing more and more hotspots of film start cropping up - more like music. Maybe you start getting more local film styles, the way music styles are often associated to regions around the country.

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                                  • D Offline
                                    driven
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                                    sorry Chris, I still get this

                                    on Mac/10.5.8/SU8 (this is without code)on Mac/10.5.8/SU8 (this is with code)on PC/XP/SU8 (standard export)

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                                    • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                      Chris Fullmer
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                                      Thanks for the details!

                                      ok, so with the code, it exports the correct aspect, but the lame grey bars are all over inside the image. I'll see if I can come up with a workaround - I have an idea.

                                      Chris

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                                      • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                        Chris Fullmer
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                                        Hmm, I've played around with it, and I have not found a way to get the image to export to the right aspect without those grey bars. I tried getting the aspect ratio of the camera, then turning off the aspect ratio so remove the bars, then export an image with the desired dimensions to match the desired aspect ratio. Then turn the aspect ratio back on - I think that would work, but the zoom is wrong somehow. I guess you could try thise cose and see if it works on the Mac differently than it does on the PC.

                                        view=Sketchup.active_model.active_view;ar = view.camera.aspect_ratio.to_f;h=1080;w=(h*ar).to_i;view.camera.aspect_ratio = 0.0;keys={;filename=>"aspect_exporter.png",;width=>w,;height=>h,;antialias=>false,;compression=>0.9,;transparent=>true};view.write_image keys;view.camera.aspect_ratio = ar
                                        
                                        
                                        

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                                        • D Offline
                                          driven
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                                          the script outputs this
                                          I think it's because we are input a value (i.e. height), rather then using screen coordinates...
                                          but I want an export version of this... with the grey or cropped to them

                                          john

                                          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                          • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                            Chris Fullmer
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                                            The only thing I can try now is to export using the exact same size as the modeling window in one direction, then use the asspect ratio to determine how tall or wide to make the 2nd dimension. So it would be essentially screen size, just cropped.

                                            I do not think this will do the trick though. Because changing the sketchup camera from aspect ratio on (showing grey bars) to aspect ratio off, makes the model jump - meaning that the FOV or camera location jump, or more likely that there is something internally to SU that is taking place that I will not be able to adjust for. So I am not convinced that I can get this work around working....But I'll see if I get a few minutes to test using the above method of using only the screen width or height as the image width or height.

                                            Chris

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