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    • R Offline
      roysjag
      last edited by

      Hi All,

      this may not be a question but is more of a statement. I have been using sketchup for almost 6 years now. I have used layout in my workflow for about 6 months. I have to say that Layout 7.1 is THE MOST unstable program or platform i have ever used. I average about 4-5 bug splats a day. Layout 7 was averaging 1 or 2. We run in our medium sized architectural practice 10 skp licenses and I had found layout brilliant for concept design work and presentation documents.

      Is anyone else experiencing such instability? I am working with large sized files, but this kind of instable software would be acceptable if it was still in beta form.

      Has anyone heard if there will be an upgrade to 7.1 soon?

      Frustrated, yet loyal sketchup user

      BP

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      • B Offline
        bjanzen
        last edited by

        First off, LayOut is 2.1, not 7.1. Is there a common reason why you're crashing? I can look at your bugsplats and see if there's a common thread if you put your e-mail and comments in there. We've had less crashing in this release than other ones, but there are always issues. I searched quickly based on your name on this list, and I don't see any, so any info would be helpful.

        b

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
          last edited by

          Hi Ben,

          I also run LO 2.1 (and used to run v1 and 2.0) on XP and although I am very talented to crash SU, with LO I can't even remember maybe just one bugsplat. There must be something special causing this so maybe yes, do what Barry suggests and file in as much info with those bugsplats as possible.

          Gai...

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          • SektaS Offline
            Sekta
            last edited by

            I to was having many problems with Bugsplats. What I try to do is keep my complex textures and images in my model to absolute minimum as these I have found to be the main source of my problem in LO. Today I was having no end of problems with bugsplats even when I wanted to change pages. What I found was the logos I had in my title block were far too large and it just didnt like it.

            Stan

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            • B Offline
              bjanzen
              last edited by

              Folks - I've msg'd both Ben and Stan, but please send in your Bugsplat reports, and if you put your e-mail and contact our support group (help->Contact Us and file a bug), we'll look at these. We typically attack the top 3-5 crashes, and if you're experiencing one of these, we may have workarounds for you or we can test your file against a new fixed version of Layout. Thanks for your help, but I need a few more details from all y'all.

              b

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              • B Offline
                baseLINE
                last edited by

                Layout is extremely unstable from my experience. One way to fix this is to turn off the 'Auto Render' check box. Before I did this it would quit when i would switch between sheets. Very frustrating.

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                • B Offline
                  bjanzen
                  last edited by

                  Quit or hang? It's a good work flow to turn off rendering so you're not re-rendering every time you make a small adjustment. Of course, small paper, small models, you can do whatever you want and it'll probably work. But think about the size of things and the rendering you're doing if it's a complex model on large paper.

                  b

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                  • J Offline
                    jhauswirth
                    last edited by

                    I highly suspect the crashes are from multi-threaded rendering that's happening.
                    In-
                    C:\Documents and Settings[YOUR_USER_NAME]\Application Data\Google\Google SketchUp 7\LayOut\preferences.xml
                    you can add-

                    <t:dicItem key="render_ST">
                    <t:variant type="1">1</t:variant>
                    </t:dicItem>

                    You can open this file up in a text editor.
                    Make sure the text editor can display the file
                    formatted so you can see the pattern of entries
                    that are in the file. Just insert this block of
                    text into the rest of the settings.

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                    • SektaS Offline
                      Sekta
                      last edited by

                      Insert it anywhere or somewhere specific?

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                      • J Offline
                        jhauswirth
                        last edited by

                        @unknownuser said:

                        Insert it anywhere or somewhere specific?

                        Where you put it doesn't matter. Just open the file and you'll see
                        a bunch of other entries that look like the block of text you need to
                        insert. If you're using an editor that doesn't format the text so that
                        you see other blocks of settings like the one you need to insert, try
                        write.exe. Do Windows Key->r to open the run dialog and type in
                        write.exe and then open preferences.xml in there.
                        For example it would look like this after you insert-

                        <t:dicItem key="read_old_file_version_warning">
                        <t:variant type="1">0</t:variant>
                        </t:dicItem>

                        <t:dicItem key="render_ST">
                        <t:variant type="1">1</t:variant>
                        </t:dicItem>

                        <t:dicItem key="su_render_hybrid_warning">
                        <t:variant type="1">0</t:variant>
                        </t:dicItem>

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