Problem with Group name in SU 7.1

NewOne

I don't know if this was in previous versions of SU, but now I discovered it.
If I make a group and rename it by right-click in Outliner -> Rename, or I add a name in Entity Info, the group entity doesn't get the new name. If you check group's name in ruby console, you will see that the group still have "Group#1" name, unless the new name is added by ruby code. Is this normal?

TIG

Works fine for me in v7.1 either Rename off Outliner's context-menu or rename in Entity Info both OK.

NewOne

@tig said:

Works fine for me in v7.1 either Rename off Outliner's context-menu or rename in Entity Info both OK.

Did you checked the name with ruby?

thomthom

Renamed with Entity Info and Outliner - checked with the ruby console afterwards - worked fine.

NewOne

Hmm, groups are very tricky in SU, as I can see... I made a group in SketchUp and used this in console:


defs = model.definitions
defs[0].name

it reported me " Group#1". Then I renamed the group and got same result. I tried to rename the definition defs[0].name = 'test'; now, the definition name was changed, but group instance not.
I made another test with a component. In this case, renaming the definition, renamed the instance and when I asked the name, I got the right answer.

In the end I played with the group entity


ents = model.entities
ents[0].name                #reported me the correct name of the group
ents[0].name = 'test_group' #changed properly the group entity name

I really don't understant what is that definition for group entity if it doesn't influence the entity itself. Ok, I know... groups are unique, more or less... more copies of same group are treated as instances until one is opened or edited inside. Just... weird

---EDIT---

If I have a group with given name and I use right-click -> Make Component, the component definition will have group's definition name, not the name I gived to that group entity.

thomthom

definition.name is not the same as instance.name or group.name

As you see when you select a ComponentInstance, in the Entity Info you see Name: and Definition Name:
Same goes for the group, when you edit the Name: in the Entity Info you edit the ComponentInstance.name or Group.name - not the definition's name.