[Plugin] 2D Tools

kupono

Can't get the 2D Line Style tool to display a settings dialog in SU Pro 2015. I removed all 2D folders and plugins then reinstalled - same thing.

Dave R

It works fine for me. The dialog box pops up when I right click in empty space just as the hint at the bottom directs.

kupono

That's interesting, it's now working. Go figure.

Thx

sketchydog

@thomthom said:

:?:

TIG-
Have enjoyed using 2D Tools, and especially the linestyle tool, for generating property lines, etc.
Some comments:

first of all, have been running it fine on SU 2015. Today, I attempted a few Custom Styles, and now I am stuck with the most recent Custom Style, and right clicking in empty space no longer gets me a menu. I went back to a saved version of the file a couple of hours earlier, before I attempted the Custom Style, and 2D tools works fine. It's apparently only in THIS file that it will not work. I have run Cleanup. I have done a SaveAs to another name. No good. Apparently this file is not going to run 2D Tools Line Style again. What happened?

Also- a couple of other comments:

It's strange how, for the color options, we get a huge pallete of colors...and I'm not sure where they come from...but they change...and frequently I'll go back for "Goldenrod" or some other color, and it's not on the list anymore! The list appears to be a selection in the middle of a greater range of colors. In other words, soehow I sense that there are colors above and below the menu but cannot get to them.
Would be very good to get widths greater than 144.
Would be good to have some sort of way to handle curves. It's strange when a property line "goes solid" for a short segment or a curved segment.

Thanks!

TIG

@Joseph

To get the settings dialog to open you need to right-click in 'empty-space'.
If there is any object, like a large face-plane, below the cursor you will get the context-menu instead.
If necessary orbit so you are looking at the 'empty sky' or well to one side of any existing geometry.

The color options should include a sorted list of all of all existing Materials and the built-in SketchUp colors [which include 'Goldenrod'].
Type/copy+paste this into the Ruby Console to see all of the colors...
Sketchup::Color.names.sort.each{|e|puts e};puts
The list is often longer than the height of the screen, so to navigate further down type the first letter of the color - like 'W' for 'White' - this jumps down to the first 'W' is 'Wheat', use the up/down arrows to step through the list to 'White' [this is explained in the Help pages].

You can customize the line of widths to exclude or include whatever you like: the default 'inch' set is available in the file ../Plugins/2DTools/2DlinestyleTool.rb.
You can edit that file using Notepad.exe or an equivalent plain-text editor like Notepad++ or TextWrangler[MAC] [but NOT a wordprocessor].
Line #103 says:
widths="0.05|0.1|0.2|0.25|0.5|0.75|1.0|1.5|2.0|3.0|4.0|5.0|6.0|8.0|9.0|10|12|18|20|24|25|36|48|50|60|72|75|84|96|100|108|120|132|144"
Simply delete unwanted entries or add new ones as desired, each width needs to be separated by a '|'; so e.g. if you don't want 132" delete it, and if you want 200" add it on the end as ...|108|120**|**144**|200**"
Save your changes and restart Sketchup to load the new setup...
There is also a separate 'metric' [mm] list, just below that on laine #105, so if you use mm and want to adjust that list's contents you can edit that too.

Since SketchUp's Curves are made from segments of edges any styling applies to those edges, so the styling will appear in those pieces - it would be possible, BUT very convoluted, to get a different result...

dlp

I trying to add text to surfaces on my model using the 2D text tool but I get the spinning beach ball (Mac 10.8.5) for 10-20 seconds before it places the text. I am using Sketchup Pro 2015.3.329. Any ideas why?

TIG

Have you upgraded to MAC OS 'Yosemite' recently?
That has had some ttf 3dText-font issues [also used by 2dText via the API]...
Do it occur with all fonts ?
How does the native 3dText tool compare ?
From what you say I assume it is placing the expected text - albeit after some seconds delay...
Does the Editing work the same way ?
If you run 2dText with the Ruby Console open do you see any error messages ?
Have you adjusted your installed fonts away from the standard list ?
Have you adjusted the 2dTools/Fonts.txt list ?
Are all of those fonts listed still available on your MAC ?

driven

@tig said:

Are all of those fonts listed still available on your MAC ?

NO...
the missing ones cause a 'reference to deleted' error...
the SU 'font issue' was with v2013/4 on Yosemite...

I tend to check what is there with...

fontname = 'Arial Bold Italic.ttf'
%x(mdfind -onlyin /Library/Fonts 'kMDItemKind  == "TrueType font" && kMDItemDisplayName  == "#{fontname}"')
/Library/Fonts/Arial Bold Italic.ttf

john

TIG

The 'Yosemite font issue' was also still seen in early v2015 versions, but it's now fixed since M2 ?
I am puzzled as to why the 'standard list' of fonts shipped with 2dText has non-MAC fonts in it - I compiled it ages ago to include just those ttf fonts common to PC and MAC !

I'll look at your coding idea... but does it also include for any fonts in the MAC user's fonts folder ?
Also the ttf file name does not always reflect the font's name ?
I do need to resolve this available font issue on another [non-public] tool on MACs too...

driven

@unknownuser said:

I am puzzled as to why the 'standard list' of fonts shipped with 2dText has non-MAC fonts in it - I compiled it ages ago to include just those ttf fonts common to PC and MAC !
Apple change the supplied fonts every release, some go, some come back, some switch Libraries...

@tig said:

but does it also include for any fonts in the MAC user's fonts folder ?

if you use -onlyin you look at one at a time but can also look in ~/Library/Fonts, /System/Library/Fonts

@unknownuser said:

Also the ttf file name does not always reflect the font's name ?
thats why I used kMDItemDisplayName thats the name on the tin

@unknownuser said:

I do need to resolve this available font issue on another [non-public] tool on MACs too...

I have a very good simple tool to do it with, but not for general release plugins...
I do use it in TT's 3DText Tool...
john

billsmith011683

Howdy there, I am using the 2D Tools plugin and am having difficulty using the "2D Line Style". My difficulty is with trying to select multiple items at once. Under help it says to hold the mouse button to select multiple items. I assume this means you would hold down the mouse left mouse button then hover over the lines you would like to change the style of, release the button and then those lines would change. Is this the correct procedure? If so it does not seem to be working for me. any help?? I have a section cut face that I am trying to show dashed lines in for a demolition plan and selecting each individual line is becoming a chore....

Bill

TIG

As you have Pro why now do this in Layout?

With 2dLineStyle you can work with lines by preselecting them then running the tool.
You can also click on a line while the tool is active.
You can also 'wipe over' several lines, whilst holding the mouse-button down.

billsmith011683

I have found success by clicking a line, letting it change and then while still holding down the button flying over other lines and having them change.

I could not preselect the lines then click the tool, once I clicked on the tool the lines no longer were active.

Is it possible to change the lines in layout? I was not able to find a way to change individual line in layout to be dashed, center lines, etc.... Any help you could give me in that direction would be extremely grateful. I am in 2015 Pro

Bill

TIG

You can recreate the SKP's lines withinin Layout [use a preset scene tab, draw new lines over vertices in the SKP's viewport: if it's a loop set Layouts shape to have no fill - unless of course you want that to obscure something in the SKP/viewport] and set them up, or edit them later, as desired -e.g. width, color, line-style etc.
Arrange the 'draw-order' so the viewport remains behind the new lines/shapes.
Assign layers and lock viewport/new-lines layers in place.

If you want to hide the SKP edges that you've over-drawn then assigned them to a SKP-layer that is OFF, update the Scene--tab and reload the SKP into Layout.

You can also copy edges within the SKP and paste them directly into the Layout, but that requires more practice to get them right - see Nick Sonder's videos for more details...

billsmith011683

Thanks for the help, I just kind of see it as doing the work twice, I have already drawn the lines in sketchup and with you tool I can make the lines dashed therefore, I don't have to re-trace the lines in layout and make those dashed and then worry about stacking and locking viewports. I would much rather prefer to set everything up as close to perfect in sketchup then have to depend on redoing work in layout.

spookydd

Hi all,
I can't get this plug-in to work at all.
I'm on OSX 10.8.5 (I won't upgrade), but I don't think this would make a difference.
Tried it in SU 2014 and 2015, with no results.
It simply doesn't even load, it's like it's not even in the plug-ins folder at all.
Tried manually putting the whole folder in the SU plug-ins folder, nothing registers.
Tried using the SU plugin/Ruby Resources, with the "load single plugin" and "load plugins (entire folder)". Didn't work at all, didn't load it or install it. Tried using this with the "SketchUcation Plugin Index", and couldn't install from there either.
None of the automated methods to install it worked and the manual install didn't change anything, as its presence won't make it work.
I don't know what else to try. I pulled up the ruby console, but I don't know what to do with it, as it's totally spartan.
All I wanted to do was to draw dashed lines.
What Am I missing?
Thanks

TIG

You seem to be making this more complicated than it is...
You download '2Dtools' from here http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=2Dtools
You should now have an RBZ file.

Open any version of SketchUp >=v8M2 and use...
SketchUp > Preferences > Extensions > Install... button
Chose the RBZ and answer in the affirmative to any dialogs.
It should now be installed and available to you.
It appears in the 'Draw' menu, with a '2D Tools' submenu listing the various tools.
It also appears as a '2D Tools' Toolbar - which you might have to activate the first time you install it.
There are also some context-menus which appear to Edit selected '2Dtext' and '2DlineStyles'...

The only known issue on a MAC is sometimes with '2Dtext'.
There is a file named '2DtextTool_Fonts.txt' in the ../Plugins/2DTools subfolder, it's the list of fonts available for use with '2Dtext'.
It contains the font names common to PC and MAC.
Unfortunately on newer MAC OSs Apple have removed a few 'standard' fonts and added others.
A PC it can cope with a missing font - it simply reverts to 'Arial', BUT a MAC with 'BugSplat' if you try to use a listed font that is not installed.
You can edit that text file to remove the few fonts that are not installed [or you know you will never use]; you can also add fonts as desired.
Just make sure that the list only includes installed font names.

To open you Plugins folder use this copy+paste + <enter> in the Window > Ruby Console.
UI.openURL("file:///#{Sketchup.find_support_file('Plugins')}")
You can then open the '2DTools' subfolder and find that text file...

Alternatively to open the file in your Text-Editor use this in the Ruby Console...
UI.openURL("file:///#{Sketchup.find_support_file('Plugins/2DTools/2DtextTool_Fonts.txt')}")
Edit and save.
Restart SketchUp to ensure the changes are registered with the tool.
To see a list of your MAC's installed fonts... use the 'Font Book', which you can open from your MAC's 'Applications'.

Chistabo

If only line style window (Edit line style) would remember last used settings (line width, line style, color), it would be awesome. Still this tool saves a lot of time. THUMBS UP.
Thank you for sharing,
Simon

TIG

@chistabo said:

If only line style window (Edit line style) would remember last used settings (line width, line style, color), it would be awesome. Still this tool saves a lot of time. THUMBS UP.
Thank you for sharing,
Simon
But it does remember the last used values - at least during a session - on PC anyway...
Do you have the latest version of the Tooslet installed ?
What is your OS and SUp version? - it is missing from your User details.

josephkim626

TIG,

As I have stated in the SketchUp forum I get bug splats when I perform 2D Tools - Fillet.

I do not know exact trigger, but I am able to replicate the result with just two lines.

the steps would be:

draw two lines
fillet with 5000mm radius
fillet the same two line with 2000mm radius
undo
fillet the same two line with 3000mm radius
undo

either the first undo, or second, you will crash the sketchup and get bug splat.

Thank you for putting effort in this plugin, it really is a great one otherwise.