sketchucation logo sketchucation
    • Login
    ℹ️ Licensed Extensions | FredoBatch, ElevationProfile, FredoSketch, LayOps, MatSim and Pic2Shape will require license from Sept 1st More Info

    [Plugin] VisMap - Layer/Scene Visibility Map

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Plugins
    126 Posts 15 Posters 50.3k Views 15 Watching
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • M Offline
      MartinRinehart
      last edited by

      @chrisglasier said:

      If the Sketchup Viewer had plugin facilities

      <sketchup src='my_slick_model.skp'> If you had a better browser, you'd see My Slick Model here </sketchup>
      

      Right?

      Author, Edges to Rubies - The Complete SketchUp Tutorial at http://www.MartinRinehart.com/models/tutorial.

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • M Offline
        MartinRinehart
        last edited by

        Like so?

        vismap4.jpg

        Or should Layer0 always be at the top?

        Author, Edges to Rubies - The Complete SketchUp Tutorial at http://www.MartinRinehart.com/models/tutorial.

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • Bob JamesB Offline
          Bob James
          last edited by

          Super!! 😍
          Can I download this version? I'm just beginning a new project. πŸŽ‰

          @martinrinehart said:

          Or should Layer0 always be at the top?

          My vote would be for Layer(0) to be at the top.

          i7-4930K 3.4Ghz, 2x GTX780 6GB, 32GB DDR3-1600 ECC, OCZ Vertex 4 500GB, WD Black 3TB, 32TB NAS, 4x 27" Monitors, SpaceMouse Pro, X-keys XK-60

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • J Offline
            Jim
            last edited by

            Like this:


            vismap4.jpg

            Hi

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • Bob JamesB Offline
              Bob James
              last edited by

              I like Jim's layout better, but would still prefer Layer(0) at the beginning (but that's not a show stopper).

              i7-4930K 3.4Ghz, 2x GTX780 6GB, 32GB DDR3-1600 ECC, OCZ Vertex 4 500GB, WD Black 3TB, 32TB NAS, 4x 27" Monitors, SpaceMouse Pro, X-keys XK-60

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • chrisglasierC Offline
                chrisglasier
                last edited by

                @bob james said:

                I like Jim's layout better, but would still prefer Layer(0) at the beginning (but that's not a show stopper).

                Forgive me if I have missed something but isn't layer0 always going to have to be the active layer and should not appear at all? If not it seems there will be lots of complications with reassignment/hiding.

                Both seem to ignore the scene name problem!

                Chris

                With TBA interfaces we can analyse what is to be achieved so that IT can help with automation to achieve it.

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  'Layer0' is most often used as the current layer - you then put 'assembled' groups/components/etc on other layers to control visibility. However, you can set any layer as the 'active' one BUT it's not recommended without a good reason... An example would be you are puttings dimensions on the model and want them all to be on layer 'DIMS' - make that the active layer, add the dimensions [you can then switch them on and off separated from everything else] BUT remember to go back to active=Layer0 afterwards otherwise chaos will ensue...

                  TIG

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • chrisglasierC Offline
                    chrisglasier
                    last edited by

                    @tig said:

                    'Layer0' is most often used as the current layer - you then put 'assembled' groups/components/etc on other layers to control visibility. However, you can set any layer as the 'active' one BUT it's not recommended without a good reason...

                    Ah yes I should have written ... "always going to have to be the active layer" when using VisMap

                    With TBA interfaces we can analyse what is to be achieved so that IT can help with automation to achieve it.

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • M Offline
                      MartinRinehart
                      last edited by

                      @chrisglasier said:

                      "always going to have to be the active layer" when using VisMap

                      Actually, Chris, I'd turn Layer0 off, if I could. In my tutorial I teach the common gospel re Layer0, but I don't believe it. I consider a model incomplete until Layer0 is empty.

                      Author, Edges to Rubies - The Complete SketchUp Tutorial at http://www.MartinRinehart.com/models/tutorial.

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • chrisglasierC Offline
                        chrisglasier
                        last edited by

                        @martinrinehart said:

                        @chrisglasier said:

                        "always going to have to be the active layer" when using VisMap

                        Actually, Chris, I'd turn Layer0 off, if I could. In my tutorial I teach the common gospel re Layer0, but I don't believe it. I consider a model incomplete until Layer0 is empty.

                        Yes I agree, empty, active and not an option in VisMap! Otherwise if you try and hide another layer that is active you will get an alert "You cannot hide an active layer" or something like that.

                        With TBA interfaces we can analyse what is to be achieved so that IT can help with automation to achieve it.

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • M Offline
                          MartinRinehart
                          last edited by

                          Sorted layer names.

                          These two are not in the .zip yet. Please rename "vismap.txt" to "vismap.js", try them in .../Plugins/Vismap and let me know.

                          Thanks.


                          vismap.txt


                          vismap.rb

                          Author, Edges to Rubies - The Complete SketchUp Tutorial at http://www.MartinRinehart.com/models/tutorial.

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • chrisglasierC Offline
                            chrisglasier
                            last edited by

                            @martinrinehart said:

                            Sorted layer names.

                            These two are not in the .zip yet. Please rename "vismap.txt" to "vismap.js", try them in .../Plugins/Vismap and let me know.

                            Thanks.

                            Just in case you want feedback here are two screenshots. Layer0 is empty, active and visible in all scenes. Some other layers also seem incorrectly checked - awkward to crosscheck though.
                            vismap1 230909.png
                            vismap2 230909.png

                            Perhaps the VIs strings did not get sorted (see top row, which was presumably previously level0).

                            And you really ought to address the awkwardness of the scene names and disappearing headers and unnecessary buttons (in my opinion,of course!).

                            Chris

                            With TBA interfaces we can analyse what is to be achieved so that IT can help with automation to achieve it.

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • Bob JamesB Offline
                              Bob James
                              last edited by

                              Alphabetizing works great. πŸ‘

                              It still has a problem with pre-existing models with many layers and many scenes. I tried a new approach: I deleted all but one scene and re-saved the model with a different name. VisMap still would not load the layer names. (see attached)

                              Another request: Since you can have multiple models open at the same time, wouldn't it be a good idea to have the file name in the VisMap dialog box title?


                              ![After clicking on "Get Data from Model"](/uploads/imported_attachments/M321_Screenshot2009-09-25at4.54.52PM.JPG "After clicking on "Get Data from Model"")

                              i7-4930K 3.4Ghz, 2x GTX780 6GB, 32GB DDR3-1600 ECC, OCZ Vertex 4 500GB, WD Black 3TB, 32TB NAS, 4x 27" Monitors, SpaceMouse Pro, X-keys XK-60

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • M Offline
                                MartinRinehart
                                last edited by

                                @bob james said:

                                Alphabetizing works great. πŸ‘

                                It still has a problem with ...

                                Bob, I need a sample model.

                                @bob james said:

                                Since you can have multiple models open at the same time

                                I also need a Mac. Will look at the name thing.

                                Author, Edges to Rubies - The Complete SketchUp Tutorial at http://www.MartinRinehart.com/models/tutorial.

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • M Offline
                                  MartinRinehart
                                  last edited by

                                  @chrisglasier said:

                                  Perhaps the VIs strings did not get sorted (see top row, which was presumably previously level0).

                                  Can you send me a model? Post here or MartinRinehart at gmail dot com.

                                  @chrisglasier said:

                                  And you really ought to address the awkwardness of the scene names and disappearing headers and unnecessary buttons (in my opinion,of course!).

                                  Ground-up rebuild, but not anytime soon. Scene names should be in a separate window you can move/size to suit. Title should be in a frame you can fold away. Scene #s should be frozen. You should have Ctrl/+, Ctrl/- to adjust size....

                                  Author, Edges to Rubies - The Complete SketchUp Tutorial at http://www.MartinRinehart.com/models/tutorial.

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • chrisglasierC Offline
                                    chrisglasier
                                    last edited by

                                    @martinrinehart said:

                                    Can you send me a model?

                                    Please download sceneModel R1.4.zip from here.

                                    With TBA interfaces we can analyse what is to be achieved so that IT can help with automation to achieve it.

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • chrisglasierC Offline
                                      chrisglasier
                                      last edited by

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      The Layers SU Window is small, redimensionable, fully interactive and has a table scrolling. Furthermore, it allows to add / remove layers and configure them dynamically. You will miss however the Sorting into alphabetical order! Fredo

                                      Just for the sake of good order:

                                      On a PC you can sort layers alphabetically by clicking on "Name."

                                      Pedantically

                                      Chris

                                      With TBA interfaces we can analyse what is to be achieved so that IT can help with automation to achieve it.

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • M Offline
                                        MartinRinehart
                                        last edited by

                                        Thanks to you guys, I've now reproduced the issue in a modest model. Probably closing in on the solution, though I won't be on it any longer, today.

                                        Author, Edges to Rubies - The Complete SketchUp Tutorial at http://www.MartinRinehart.com/models/tutorial.

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • fredo6F Offline
                                          fredo6
                                          last edited by

                                          @chrisglasier said:

                                          Just for the sake of good order:

                                          On a PC you can sort layers alphabetically by clicking on "Name."

                                          Pedantically

                                          Chris

                                          Chris, You are right actually. You can also sort them by visible / invisible and by color.
                                          We should sometime look at what the SU engineers are doing in the native application πŸ˜„

                                          Fredo

                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • Bob JamesB Offline
                                            Bob James
                                            last edited by

                                            @chrisglasier said:

                                            Please download sceneModel R1.4.zip from here.

                                            Page not found

                                            We're sorry, but we were unable to locate the page you requested.

                                            i7-4930K 3.4Ghz, 2x GTX780 6GB, 32GB DDR3-1600 ECC, OCZ Vertex 4 500GB, WD Black 3TB, 32TB NAS, 4x 27" Monitors, SpaceMouse Pro, X-keys XK-60

                                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • 1
                                            • 2
                                            • 3
                                            • 4
                                            • 5
                                            • 6
                                            • 7
                                            • 6 / 7
                                            • First post
                                              Last post
                                            Buy SketchPlus
                                            Buy SUbD
                                            Buy WrapR
                                            Buy eBook
                                            Buy Modelur
                                            Buy Vertex Tools
                                            Buy SketchCuisine
                                            Buy FormFonts

                                            Advertisement